Trudeau Popularity - or not (various polling, etc.)

[mariomike]

What are your conclusions since the topic interests you?

Since the topic seems to be of interest to some readers ( like the one below ), I checked the statisctics posted by Furniture.

There is a non zero number of boomer women who think the world revolves around the name Trudeau. I don’t get it. The both of them are orbiting assholes that any self respecting woman would avoid at all costs.

Its ok, sweetie, better luck next time.

Does name calling make you feel like an internet tough guy?

 

[ArmyRick]

1. Canada needs two broadly centrist, liberal (in the proper meaning of the term) parties;
2. Right now it has less than one;
3. Neither of the BQ or NDP wants to be liberal or centrist; but
4. Canadians are, politically and socially, broadly, left of centre which means that we tend to eschew fiscal, social and strategic moderation and responsibility in favour of claptrap like PM Trudeau's misuse of Laurier's "sunny ways" notion;
5. Good, even great Canadians PM were: Laurier, Borden; St Laurent; Martin and Harper;
6. Short term nonentities included: Campbell, Clark; Meighen and Turner;
7. Mediocre to bad PMs were: Chrétien, Diefenbaker and Mulroney; and
8. Disastrous PMs were/are: Trudeau and Trudeau, père et fils; therefore
9. We can conclude that the real problem is us, Canadians, and our own socio-political immaturity.

1. Agreed. Canada needs two very close to center parties to function. In fact 3-4 parties all close to center would keep the ship upright at all times (Right now we are listing hard to the left)
2. I disagree. PP appears far right, truth is, he is slightly right but is gonna have to push the ship hard for his first term to get her back in balance
3. NDP could have taken power in the next election if Jagmeet had any vision starting 5 years ago. However his one foot in and one foot nonsense is turning off everyone, including hard left and hard Union folks. Bloc does what it always does, and they have been the most honest about it.
4. Sometimes. Bring up "Paul Bernardo" and see the right leaning quest for justice or mention how many billions are being wasted on nothing to show programs while they struggle for groceries and rent, now you see the right leaning side of Canucks
5. Martin and Harper were both alright as PMs. I nearly voted for Martins brand of Liberals (No one is sin free)
6. They were place holders
7. I wasn't around for Dief the chief but my parents were bitter about the Arrow project. Mulroney promised a lot for defence but when we thought the cold war was over (it never truly did, it went on pause), it seems he yanked the rug out from under us
8. Trudeau Junior, absolutely. I was actually not too disturbed when he got elected in 2015. It only took a year for me to sour on him. Harper took 4 years to turn me against him.
9. The world is always changing and I think that shifts things. WE as a society have had it relatively good for what? Most of my life so far (51 years at this post), but Trudeau (Justin) thrashing our finances for nothing and making Canada a mockery plus Trump setting his sights on us, I think the Canadians of the next 10-20 years will lean very differently.

 

[ArmyRick]

Does name calling make you feel like an internet tough guy?

Tit for tat. You engage just as well with me. My advice, drop it. I will reiterate, I am an asshole and there are 5 people in the world who I give a shit what they think of me. Your not one.

 

[ArmyRick]

Ok, Rick, dammit, you’ve got me on that one even if Poilievre has said little about what he’d do in most other ways. Nolo contendere.

I do have to admit. If I were a quebecois, Yves Blanchett and the Bloc would also be a real alternative.

 

[mariomike]

I will reiterate, I am an asshole

ok.

Its ok, sweetie, better luck next time.

Still didn't answer my question. Does name calling make you feel like an internet tough guy?

 

[ArmyRick]

Does name calling make you feel like an internet tough guy?

I am a tough guy and I don't need to hide behind the keyboard.

 

[mariomike]

I am a tough guy and I don't need to hide behind the keyboard. Anytime we can meet in person.

I believe you.

But, how does name calling make you feel like a tough guy when hiding behind the keyboard?

Its ok, sweetie, better luck next time.

 

[ArmyRick]

I believe you.

But, how does name calling make you feel like a tough guy when hiding behind the keyboard?

I deleted the probably inappropriate response. Last warning, drop it.

 

[mariomike]

I deleted the probably inappropriate response. Last warning, drop it.

Which "probably inappopriate response" did you delete?

Do you mean the one with the name calling?

Its ok, sweetie, better luck next time.

 

[ArmyRick]

Which "probably inappopriate response" did you delete?

Do you mean the one with the name calling?

Taking this to a PM

 

[RangerRay]

Beggin yer pardon Regina is only six hours - five if you are heavy footed.

With yougn’uns, it feels a lot longer.

 

[RangerRay]

At this point in his political life I just assume he's heavily medicated, so this makes sense in that light

Trudeau says Kamala Harris's election loss was a setback for women's progress​

'We were supposed to be on a steady, if difficult, march towards progress,' prime minister says​

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said Tuesday that Kamala Harris's loss in the U.S. presidential election was a setback for women's progress — and cited several recent incidents that he said suggest women's rights are under attack by "regressive" and "reactionary" political forces.

In an address to an Ottawa gala for Equal Voice, an organization that works to get more women elected to public office, Trudeau said politicians who are hostile to women's rights — particularly a woman's right to choose abortion — are "winning too often, unfortunately." He said feminists like himself have to be "lucid" about the challenges ahead.

"We were supposed to be on a steady, if difficult, march towards progress. And yet, just a few weeks ago, the United States voted for a second time to not elect its first woman president," Trudeau said, adding that "women's rights and women's progress" are "under attack."

"And I want you to know that I am and always will be a proud feminist," he said. "You will always have an ally in me and my government."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-kamala-harris-setback-1.7407402

I just wish this idjit would STFU…

 

[RangerRay]

You just know that any man who loudly and publicly proclaims his feminism is just a POS trying to get into a girl’s pants because he has no other talents.

I remember quite well in uni the douche bags who were in women’s studies…

 

[daftandbarmy]

I remember quite well in uni the douche bags who were in women’s studies…

Well, Women's History but...

 

[brihard]

Yes.

Found here: https://cpcassets.conservative.ca/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/23175001/990863517f7a575.pdf

PP also said this:

Leaders 'never bound' by Conservative party members' policy ideas: Pierre Poilievre

On the eve of his first policy convention as Conservative leader, Pierre Poilievre reminded Canadians that he is not bound by the policy ideas the grassroots membership chooses to advance.

www.ctvnews.ca

I hope he’s not bound by it… Every CAF member should hope that too. It says right in there that they want to move public sector pensions away from defined benefit to defined contribution. That’s a bad thing for CAF, PS, and RCMP.

 

[mariomike]

It says right in there that they want to move public sector pensions away from defined benefit to defined contribution. That’s a bad thing for CAF, PS, and RCMP.

For readers who may be impacted,

33. PensionsThe Conservative Party believes that company pension funds should be invested by independent trustees for the benefit of employees and should be held at arm’s length, not accessible by the company or its creditors.The Conservative Party is committed to bring public sector pensions in-line with Canadian norms by switching to a defined contribution pension model, which includes employer contributions comparable to the private sector.

 

[brihard]

For readers who may be impacted,

33. PensionsThe Conservative Party believes that company pension funds should be invested by independent trustees for the benefit of employees and should be held at arm’s length, not accessible by the company or its creditors.The Conservative Party is committed to bring public sector pensions in-line with Canadian norms by switching to a defined contribution pension model, which includes employer contributions comparable to the private sector.

Anyone public sector - federal, provincial, municipal - needs to watch this like a hawk. If the feds lose defined benefit pensions, no reason to think the provincial and municipal plans won’t look to go that way too. The federal defined benefit plans are the Helm’s Deep of DB pensions in Canada.

 

[Jarnhamar]

ok.

Looks like most female voters support Teams Red, Orange and Green.

8% gender gap with Team Blue.

Looks like they need to pull their heads out of their ass eh?

 

[mariomike]

Anyone public sector - federal, provincial, municipal - needs to watch this like a hawk. If the feds lose defined benefit pensions, no reason to think the provincial and municipal plans won’t look to go that way too. The federal defined benefit plans are the Helm’s Deep of DB pensions in Canada.

Not something retired OMERS members need worry about. Current and future

 

[OldSolduer]

With yougn’uns, it feels a lot longer.

With a wife too,