Quirky
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Maybe, he’s the only leader with less credibility than JT.
Trudeau Popularity - or not (various polling, etc.)
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Maybe, he’s the only leader with less credibility than JT.
I suspect that when an election actually occurs the NDP may end up with a net gain in seats and may form the official opposition. Which will probably mean bugger-all since the CPC will likely have a substantial majority of seats in Parliament.
That will probably not occur as what support they have will dilute the Left wing vote thus delivering Conservatives seats at maybe as little as 32-35% of Conservative support. There are very few "safe" NDP seats in Canada.
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Parliament sits 27 Jan 25. The Liberal Leader in the House can/will then sometime during the Session, announce the Opposition Days - CPC , Bloq, then NDP. Probably not till sometime in March.
All Opposition Parties, of course, can vote on the first Non-Confidence Motion.
Singh knows this and his pension is secured.
All Opposition Parties, of course, can vote on the first Non-Confidence Motion.
Singh knows this and his pension is secured.
I suspect you are right.
I could easily see a caveat “under the right circumstances” be added on.
I wonder if Trudeau’s next (and last) move might be to announce he’ll step down and to yank the rug with a prorogue until the LPC choose a new leader in a snap leadership process? I don’t know what the internal mechanisms for that would look like. I wouldn’t rule it out as a possibility though.
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The Governor General would have to entertain the request to prorogue first, having to weigh the need of the LPC to select a new leader against the need of the country to have a functioning legislature and government.
Trudeau would also have to make the case that even in his absence as Party Leader, the LPC still maintains confidence of the house. This may or may not be the case depending on when he requests a prorogation.
Additionally, prorogation is not a given because the PM asks for one. This is why our constitutional monarchy has it's role to play in preventing tyranny through political games.
By all accounts, Her Excellency could very easily turn the PM out to take his thrashing in the house and come back when he needs her to trigger an election. It all depends on her resolve and how many tendrils the PM wormed into the Vice Regal office to prevent them from calling his bluff.
Yeeeeesss… buuut… that would be going hard against the convention of the GG not actually unilaterally exercising powers against the advice of the PM. That’s an exceptionally strong constitutional convention. However, it would probably get harder thought from her than most such cases.
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Meanwhile, the neo-Marxists don't even like the guy 
jacobin.com
Also, a bit more from the "I'm gonna, you wait and see - watch me" file
www.thecanadianpressnews.ca
How Justin Trudeau Alienated Canada’s Working Class
Canada, like the US and other countries, is grappling with acute political dealignment. Plummeting working-class support for center-left parties highlights the failure of liberal policies and the appeal of Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre’s populism.
jacobin.com
Also, a bit more from the "I'm gonna, you wait and see - watch me" file
Singh says NDP will bring forward a non-confidence motion to bring government down
OTTAWA - The New Democrats will bring forward a non-confidence motion to bring down the Liberals in the next sitting of the House of Commons, NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh said
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Prorogation has definitely become a bad word after it was used to stop a coalition against the CPC in 2008.
With that, so comes a challenge against the notion that a request for prorogation is rubber stamped by virtue of the constitutional convention of GGs acting soley on "the advice of the PM." Michelle Jean entertained the prorogation, however, placed conditions on it's approval; mainly that it was only as long as necessary and that the Government present a budget once the House resumed as a matter of confidance.
The Reserve Powers exist for a reason, and as of yet we haven't seen reason to use them. That doesn't mean they're a tool to neglect to keep sharp.
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To think that Trump will be President on 20 Jan 25, with his Tariffs, and Parliament (the Liberal government who sets the Sessions) worrisomely not sitting till 27 Jan
is unimaginable. But there we have it.
Have not calculated the timeline, but if Parliament was recalled , say 6 Jan, would Singh still qualify for his pension? If not what would Singh do?
is unimaginable. But there we have it.
Have not calculated the timeline, but if Parliament was recalled , say 6 Jan, would Singh still qualify for his pension? If not what would Singh do?
No, and I’m not saying you’re wrong. If there’s an edge case to divert from the convention, this is it. I just don’t know. But the may choose not to given that, even with a snap leadership campaign, The house would resume soon enough for confidence to be challenged. I guess HEGG could say “ok, but only for 30 days” or something. Give the LPC a very short return spring on a leadership process.
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She has a team of well qualified advisors (academics, mostly) who counsel her on the constitutionality of her decisions; she (like the sovereign) is NOT 100% bound to accept the prime minister's advise.
Singh took his seat Feb 25, 2019. The “eat shit” move by Trudeau would be to meet the GG soon, dissolve Parliament, and have an election held a week before.
That would be nearly two months from now. An election period must be a minimum of 36 days. Trudeau could have one called as late as January 20th or so and the minimum period would still fall short of Singh’s six years.
I actually don’t think Singh cares that much about the pension though. He’s got money, and six years’ Parliamentary pension, while not nothing, also isn’t massive.
Conceivably if Trudeau saw the GG tomorrow, we could have an election as soon as January 27th. Not a bad idea given the timeline of things south of the border.
Poilievre to submit letter to Governor General asking to recall House for confidence vote
Conservative Party Leader Pierre Poilievre announced that he will submit a letter to the Governor General asking to recall the House for a confidence vote.
Could be the end is near.
Except the GG can’t recall parliamentPoilievre to submit letter to Governor General asking to recall House for confidence vote
Conservative Party Leader Pierre Poilievre announced that he will submit a letter to the Governor General asking to recall the House for a confidence vote.www.ctvnews.ca
Could be the end is near.
But it puts huge pressure on the Liberal caucus to effect change.
