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Trump administration 2024-2028

Cloud Cover said:
I hope they invade during BlackFly season.

I think Trump is scared. Notice there are no steak knives on the table.
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They're all in Trudeau's back ;)

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It was reported that when Trudeau said the tariffs would wreck Canada's economy, Trump replied that if Canada can't survive without ripping off the US to the tune of $100B every year then maybe it should be become the 51st state... which I think is a little shallow thinking.... it would make more sense that each province became a state.... helmet on

And if the Mexican drug problem could be brought under control, roll that country in as well. The country of North American would be the greatest country that ever existed.
 
QV said:
Trump replied that if Canada can't survive without ripping off the US to the tune of $100B every year then maybe it should be become the 51st state...
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Just the part east of Fernie and west of Manitoba.
 
QV said:
It was reported that when Trudeau said the tariffs would wreck Canada's economy, Trump replied that if Canada can't survive without ripping off the US to the tune of $100B every year then maybe it should be become the 51st state... which I think is a little shallow thinking.... it would make more sense that each province became a state.... helmet on

And if the Mexican drug problem could be brought under control, roll that country in as well. The country of North American would be the greatest country that ever existed.
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To tell Trump that it would wreck our economy is the wrong thing to say to him. Better to say how it will damage their economy.
 
Good2Golf said:
The provinces’ back pocket. Kinew, Ford and Smith have made it clear to neighboring Governors that mutual best interests are at play, no matter what JT & Co. are saying…
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I think the provinces need to shut up or put up. If they actually worked out a proper Canada as per the constitution free trade deal, a 25% tariff would be a soft landing overall. We stand to lose 1-4% of GDP if there is a tariff. A internal free trade deal would soften that blow. .2-.5% of GDP right now, but if there is a tariff that would increase significantly as it would be cheaper to look to the rest of Canada for products in a lot of cases.
 
Underway said:
I think the provinces need to shut up or put up. If they actually worked out a proper Canada as per the constitution free trade deal, a 25% tariff would be a soft landing overall. We stand to lose 1-4% of GDP if there is a tariff. A internal free trade deal would soften that blow. .2-.5% of GDP right now, but if there is a tariff that would increase significantly as it would be cheaper to look to the rest of Canada for products in a lot of cases.
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Do you mean a ‘Fortress Canada’ approach where provinces bias their ‘exports’ to other provinces internal to Canada, vs to various US states?
 
Good2Golf said:
Do you mean a ‘Fortress Canada’ approach where provinces bias their ‘exports’ to other provinces internal to Canada, vs to various US states?
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No I mean that provinces instead of putting up trade barriers and different business environments harmonize everything, thus when external trade goes sideways it might be easier to order parts or items from somewhere else in Canada. Not exclusionary. More carrot than stick really.
 
To further expand, it would also allow Gov't to do retaliatory tariffs more easily. It's just something we should have done a long time ago. I understand that US tariffs on buying outside of Canada is different than Canada buying from the US.

Its pretty pathetic that Quebec is screaming about US tariffs but won't budge on marketing boards or let Alberta oil through. Or that Nova Scotia provides Canadian softwood lumber data to the US so they can raise protectionist barriers but in return give NS an exclusion to those same barriers. Etc.. etc...
 
Underway said:
To further expand, it would also allow Gov't to do retaliatory tariffs more easily. It's just something we should have done a long time ago. I understand that US tariffs on buying outside of Canada is different than Canada buying from the US.

Its pretty pathetic that Quebec is screaming about US tariffs but won't budge on marketing boards or let Alberta oil through. Or that Nova Scotia provides Canadian softwood lumber data to the US so they can raise protectionist barriers but in return give NS an exclusion to those same barriers. Etc.. etc...
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None of that sounds like a unified country acting in mutual support of all parts. Canada can't seem to operate like a sovereign nation acting in it's own best interests. "Vassal state" seems to be a more apt description, therefore it makes sense to dissolve and become additional states of the United States.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but individual states have a lot of power... more than provinces do, I think.
 
Underway said:
To further expand, it would also allow Gov't to do retaliatory tariffs more easily. It's just something we should have done a long time ago. I understand that US tariffs on buying outside of Canada is different than Canada buying from the US.

Its pretty pathetic that Quebec is screaming about US tariffs but won't budge on marketing boards or let Alberta oil through. Or that Nova Scotia provides Canadian softwood lumber data to the US so they can raise protectionist barriers but in return give NS an exclusion to those same barriers. Etc.. etc...
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Why does "Irving" pop into my mind the moment I hear this?
 
Underway said:
No I mean that provinces instead of putting up trade barriers and different business environments harmonize everything, thus when external trade goes sideways it might be easier to order parts or items from somewhere else in Canada. Not exclusionary. More carrot than stick really.
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Underway said:
To further expand, it would also allow Gov't to do retaliatory tariffs more easily. It's just something we should have done a long time ago. I understand that US tariffs on buying outside of Canada is different than Canada buying from the US.

Its pretty pathetic that Quebec is screaming about US tariffs but won't budge on marketing boards or let Alberta oil through. Or that Nova Scotia provides Canadian softwood lumber data to the US so they can raise protectionist barriers but in return give NS an exclusion to those same barriers. Etc.. etc...
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Ack. Totally tracking that and agree fully. The pan-provincial tariffs have to be one of the craziest things going, far more restrictive than what I believe is the case for state to state trade.
 
QV said:
None of that sounds like a unified country acting in mutual support of all parts. Canada can't seem to operate like a sovereign nation acting in it's own best interests. "Vassal state" seems to be a more apt description, therefore it makes sense to dissolve and become additional states of the United States.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but individual states have a lot of power... more than provinces do, I think.
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They have way less power. Way way less. There was a war fought over this and the US federal government won.
 
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