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Trump administration 2024-2028

Warning shot…
That’s just silly theatrics. If a governor were individually and directly harbouring an illegal alien, that would absolutely meet the elements of the offence enumerated under Title 8 U.S. Code, section 1324. It would not, however, subject them to criminal liability for being in a political leadership role in states that have legislation or regulation wherein they won’t provide any assistance at state level to certain immigration enforcement.

If Mr. Homan wants to threaten governors with Offences pertaining to illegal aliens, he should be live to the fact that that same section, in subsection (a)(1)(A)(ii), establishes as an offence, “knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, transports, or moves or attempts to transport or move such alien within the United States by means of transportation or otherwise, in furtherance of such violation of law”. A subsequent section includes any conspiracy to that end. This hearkens back to at least one Governor who was compelling illegal migrants to get on planes and/or buses and sending them up to other states.

The applicable section of U.S. law is here: 8 U.S. Code § 1324 - Bringing in and harboring certain aliens
 
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Closest thread available for this since “extremely fractured U.S.” is shut.

SCOTUS has denied an emergency appeal by Donald Trump to prevent his sentencing on his felony convictions in New York tomorrow morning. The trial judge has already signalled that a very light sentence is in the cards that that it will not interfere with the presidential transition or his assumption of his elected duties. His sentencing will proceed at 9 am.

In rendering this decision, SCOTUS has at least rejected the defense claim that presidential immunity extends forward in time to encompass a president elect. So there’s that.
 
The first Outlaw President. :ROFLMAO:

That could appeal to all the people who think they've been hard done by the government in one way or another - so probably close to a majority of Americans.
 
The first Outlaw President. :ROFLMAO:

That could appeal to all the people who think they've been hard done by the government in one way or another - so probably close to a majority of Americans.
I suspect anyone who’s really jazzed about that fact that he’s now officially and unequivocally a convicted (white collar) felon was probably already well ensconced in his base anyway. Regardless, the election is behind them now and this was his last one, so it’s neither here nor there.

The convictions, of course, will remain the subject of appeal. SCOTUS declined into interfere with sentencing in part because appellate relief is still available and should be allowed to proceed impeded.
 
... The trial judge has already signalled that a very light sentence is in the cards ...
Indeed it was.
And from POTUS47?
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Indeed it was.
And from POTUS47?
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His whining aside, he is a convicted felon, convicted on the facts presented to a jury. Had his case deserved to be dismissed, the judge would have dismissed it. Had there not been a case, the prosecution would not have succesfully proven it beyond a reasonable doubt. He was given an unconditional discharge due to the impracticalities of imposing any other sentence on someone elected to be president ten days hence- not because the conviction was not valid.

Hilarious that he describes the start witness as a ‘disbarred, disgraced serial perjurer’. Tell us, Mr. Trump, just how precisely did Michael Cohen end up being those things? On whose behalf was he working?

Anyway, Americans still picked this and that’s their choice. But no amount of petulant ranting on his social media platform changes what or who he is.
 
His whining aside, he is a convicted felon, convicted on the facts presented to a jury. Had his case deserved to be dismissed, the judge would have dismissed it. Had there not been a case, the prosecution would not have succesfully proven it beyond a reasonable doubt.
but but but lawfare!!!! wahhhhhhhh
 
He was given an unconditional discharge due to the impracticalities of imposing any other sentence on someone elected to be president ten days hence- not because the conviction was not valid.
I'm annoyed that a judge is allowing that to factor in. If the crime merits a certain response (swinging great fine, off to the cells, pelted with rotten fruit in the public square). then impose that response. If that means the state's enforcement apparatus has to find a chair for the USSS to sit outside a cell, and that the incoming POTUS misses the inaguration... state's acting within their jurisdiction, no? Swear Vance in.
 
I'm annoyed that a judge is allowing that to factor in. If the crime merits a certain response (swinging great fine, off to the cells, pelted with rotten fruit in the public square). then impose that response. If that means the state's enforcement apparatus has to find a chair for the USSS to sit outside a cell, and that the incoming POTUS misses the inaguration... state's acting within their jurisdiction, no? Swear Vance in.
The US, over many years, has made their presidents more akin to absolute monarchs where it comes to criminal accountability.
 
The US, over many years, has made their presidents more akin to absolute monarchs where it comes to criminal accountability.
Though SCOTUS did rule that immunity doesn't precede assuming the office.

It's an interesting evolution from a position that IIRC could have evolved (and I think there was some allusion to this back in the day) into something that was much more subordinate to the House and especially the Senate: a sort of Chief Secretary beset by everyone else's agenda rather than the current four-year Sovereign holding a range of military options sufficient to make a Mongol khan blanch,
 
The US, over many years, has made their presidents more akin to absolute monarchs where it comes to criminal accountability.
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His whining aside, he is a convicted felon, convicted on the facts presented to a jury. Had his case deserved to be dismissed, the judge would have dismissed it. Had there not been a case, the prosecution would not have succesfully proven it beyond a reasonable doubt. He was given an unconditional discharge due to the impracticalities of imposing any other sentence on someone elected to be president ten days hence- not because the conviction was not valid.

Hilarious that he describes the start witness as a ‘disbarred, disgraced serial perjurer’. Tell us, Mr. Trump, just how precisely did Michael Cohen end up being those things? On whose behalf was he working?

Anyway, Americans still picked this and that’s their choice. But no amount of petulant ranting on his social media platform changes what or who he is.
The “overwhelming mandate” part that he still chooses to focus on kills me :ROFLMAO:
 
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