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Trump administration 2024-2028

Nvlgzr said:
Not a chance. Doug is not much of a thinker. When he was on Toronto council, he was always at odds with council and couldn’t see beyond his riding whilst covering for his brother (got any coke) Rob.
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Obviously not a Ford Nation fan. Lol emoji
 
Back ground info on how often the ad has been running in certain locations in the US. Also, interestingly, comments from Trump on Tuesday of this week on his initial thoughts of the ads.


Trump initially appeared unfazed by the ad​

Trump said earlier in the week that he had seen the ad on TV and didn’t seem bothered by it. “If I was Canada, I’d take that same ad also,” he said Tuesday during a lunch with Republican senators.

Ontario bought more than $275,000 of ad reservations for the spot to air in 198 of the nation’s 210 media markets this month, according to data from the nonpartisan media tracking firm AdImpact. It was broadcast most frequently in the New York market, with more than 530 airings, followed by Washington, D.C., at around 280. The only other markets with more than 100 airings were those around Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, and West Palm Beach, Florida.

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Trump ends trade talks with Canada over tariffs ad that Ontario premier now says he'll phase out

Ontario Premier Doug Ford says he’s pulling the TV ad that caused President Donald Trump to say he was ending trade negotiations with Canada.
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Trump’s whining has vastly magnified the attention the ad has gotten, and has caused a lot of people to point out that no, he’s wrong, Reagan as a rule generally loathed tariffs and only reluctantly employed them in specific, narrow cases where there was a distinct unfair trade practice.

I finally saw the actual ad. It was well done.

Oh and the Reagan foundation can kick rocks. It’s astonishing that Trump has them sitting in a little wooden chair in the corner of the bedroom watching him has his way with Reagan’s legacy, and pretending that what he says about Reagan’s economic beliefs is remotely true.
 
brihard said:
Trump’s whining has vastly magnified the attention the ad has gotten, and has caused a lot of people to point out that no, he’s wrong, Reagan as a rule generally loathed tariffs and only reluctantly employed them in specific, narrow cases where there was a distinct unfair trade practice.

I finally saw the actual ad. It was well done.

Oh and the Reagan foundation can kick rocks. It’s astonishing that Trump has them sitting in a little wooden chair in the corner of the bedroom watching him has his way with Reagan’s legacy, and pretending that what he says about Reagan’s economic beliefs is remotely true.
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The same Reagan foundation run by David Trulio, a previous member of Trump administration 1? 🫡
 
....So, Trump magnified the ad, and Doug Ford let it roll one final weekend, and just saved millions of dollars?

Hmm.... Yeah, I'd pull it after the weekend as well, it did what was intended. He could invest all the money he just saved into a fresh ad later.

I didn't even know about this ad until Trump made a huge stink about it. Now everyone has seen it. And because it pissed off Trump so much you know it hit a nerve and he felt the need to address it.

Trumps threats to end negotiations are becoming meaningless. The markets didn't move, the CAD$ didn't move. It seems the world is just writing him off as a bad faith negotiator and moving on. The last negotiations were meaningless. All the trade deals ended poorly for those who rushed into them.

I don't think many Canadians really expect to make a fair deal with Trump anymore. Maybe maple MAGA types are still clinging on? Other than that, probably not many. So it's kind of just another day. Maybe at some point Canada makes a trade deal, maybe not.
 
Mills Bomb said:
....So, Trump magnified the ad, and Doug Ford let it roll one final weekend, and just saved millions of dollars?

Hmm.... Yeah, I'd pull it after the weekend as well, it did what was intended. He could invest all the money he just saved into a fresh ad later.

I didn't even know about this ad until Trump made a huge stink about it. Now everyone has seen it. And because it pissed off Trump so much you know it hit a nerve and he felt the need to address it.

Trumps threats to end negotiations are becoming meaningless. The markets didn't move, the CAD$ didn't move. It seems the world is just writing him off as a bad faith negotiator and moving on. The last negotiations were meaningless. All the trade deals ended poorly for those who rushed into them.

I don't think many Canadians really expect to make a fair deal with Trump anymore. Maybe maple MAGA types are still clinging on? Other than that, probably not many. So it's kind of just another day. Maybe at some point Canada makes a trade deal, maybe not.
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Maple MAGA doesn’t want Canada to succeed. It won’t matter, deal or no deal.
 
Jarnhamar said:
Half the US already hates Trump and the other half are ready to invade any country he tells them to.
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It is a wide brush to paint every American as a sycophant of whatever party they lat voted for. Trump voters should have known what they were voting for, but somehow there seems to be a steady trickle of folks coming forward surprised because they didn’t think he would so what he & team MAGA said (or maybe there was an assumption that the promised thing would only be done to somebody else). But there were and are swing voters who supported Trump but are not committed to Trump. Americans can choose to put their country on a different course. They just don’t have a critical mass pushing for that yet.

Jarnhamar said:
Trump's 51st State shit talk died away.
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It hasn’t been a month since he last rattled that sabre.
 
The level of pettiness and unprofessionalism of this administration is wild.

In response to the hub-bub and complaining about the east wing, the White House updated their "history" page of the White House.

In their "timeline" section, they don't just include major renovations/changes/additions to the White House, they also include major "events" at the White House.

But which "major events", you ask?

Major events by democratic presidents that would appear disparaging to those Presidents (and Democrats in general), at least to MAGA supporters. Conversely, the only actual renovations/changes/additions mentioned are those done by Republican presidents:

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HavokFour said:
And for the suits among us, the President is being sued over the East Wing demolition.

www.courthousenews.com

White House East Wing demolition sparks lawsuit to freeze ballroom construction

The White House defended President Donald Trump's authority to demolish the historic East Wing, pointing to previous presidential construction projects such as Harry Truman's remodeling of the interior.
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Filing: https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-c...voorhees-v-trump-east-wing-renovation-tro.pdf
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It i to laugh. The Administration is justifying its unilateral action by tossing in:

. . . certain “scandals” that occurred under recent Democratic administrations.

They include President Bill Clinton’s affair with Monica Lewinsky, President Barack Obama’s meeting with members of Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood in 2012 following the presidential election of its candidate Mohamed Morsi, the discovery of cocaine in the White House in July 2023 which conservatives have claimed without evidence belonged to President Joe Biden’s son Hunter, and a Transgender Day of Visibility event in 2024.
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They just can't help themselves.
 
I wonder if the Reagan Foundation will get super pissy about this speech too?

Radio Address to the Nation on the Canadian Elections and Free Trade

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Radio Address to the Nation on the Canadian Elections and Free Trade​

November 26, 1988

My fellow Americans:

This week, as we prepared for Thanksgiving, Canada held an important election, and I'm pleased to again send my congratulations to Prime Minister Mulroney. One of the important issues in the Canadian election was trade. And like our own citizens earlier this month, our neighbors have sent a strong message, rejecting protectionism and reaffirming that more trade, not less, is the wave of the future.

Here in America, as we reflect on the many things we have to be grateful for, we should take a moment to recognize that one of the key factors behind our nation's great prosperity is the open trade policy that allows the American people to freely exchange goods and services with free people around the world. The freedom to trade is not a new issue for America. In 1776 our Founding Fathers signed the Declaration of Independence, charging the British with a number of offenses, among them, and I quote, "cutting off our trade with all parts of the world,'' end quote.

And that same year, a Scottish economist named Adam Smith launched another revolution with a book entitled ``The Wealth of Nations,'' which exposed for all time the folly of protectionism. Over the past 200 years, not only has the argument against tariffs and trade barriers won nearly universal agreement among economists but it has also proven itself in the real world, where we have seen free-trading nations prosper while protectionist countries fall behind.

America's most recent experiment with protectionism was a disaster for the working men and women of this country. When Congress passed the Smoot-Hawley tariff in 1930, we were told that it would protect America from foreign competition and save jobs in this country -- the same line we hear today. The actual result was the Great Depression, the worst economic catastrophe in our history; one out of four Americans were thrown out of work. Two years later, when I cast my first ballot for President, I voted for Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who opposed protectionism and called for the repeal of that disastrous tariff.

Ever since that time, the American people have stayed true to our heritage by rejecting the siren song of protectionism. In recent years, the trade deficit led some misguided politicians to call for protectionism, warning that otherwise we would lose jobs. But they were wrong again. In fact, the United States not only didn't lose jobs, we created more jobs than all the countries of Western Europe, Canada, and Japancombined. The record is clear that when America's total trade has increased, American jobs have also increased. And when our total trade has declined, so have the number of jobs.

Part of the difficulty in accepting the good news about trade is in our words. We too often talk about trade while using the vocabulary of war. In war, for one side to win, the other must lose. But commerce is not warfare. Trade is an economic alliance that benefits both countries. There are no losers, only winners. And trade helps strengthen the free world.

Yet today protectionism is being used by some American politicians as a cheap form of nationalism, a fig leaf for those unwilling to maintain America's military strength and who lack the resolve to stand up to real enemies -- countries that would use violence against us or our allies. Our peaceful trading partners are not our enemies; they are our allies. We should beware of the demagogs who are ready to declare a trade war against our friends -- weakening our economy, our national security, and the entire free world -- all while cynically waving the American flag. The expansion of the international economy is not a foreign invasion; it is an American triumph, one we worked hard to achieve, and something central to our vision of a peaceful and prosperous world of freedom.

After the Second World War, America led the way to dismantle trade barriers and create a world trading system that set the stage for decades of unparalleled economic growth. And in one week, when important multilateral trade talks are held in Montreal, we will be in the forefront of efforts to improve this system. We want to open more markets for our products, to see to it that all nations play by the rules, and to seek improvement in such areas as dispute resolution and agriculture. We also want to bring the benefits of free trade to new areas, including services, investment, and the protection of intellectual property. Our negotiators will be working hard for all of us.

Yes, back in 1776, our Founding Fathers believed that free trade was worth fighting for. And we can celebrate their victory because today trade is at the core of the alliance that secure the peace and guarantee our freedom; it is the source of our prosperity and the path to an even brighter future for America.

Until next week, thanks for listening, and God bless you.

Note: The President spoke at 9:06 a.m. from his ranch in Santa Barbara County, CA.
Date
11/26/1988
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Lumber said:
Jesus H. Christ, it's like he travelled in time to the present day then came back and wrote this speech based on what he saw.

What a RINO...
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Unfortunately, if the Republicans will let Trump get away with lying so completely and unabashedly about something as central to the party’s history and identity as Reagan, we can safely assume they’ll let him get away with uttering any words on any subject.
 
brihard said:
Unfortunately, if the Republicans will let Trump get away with lying so completely and unabashedly about something as central to the party’s history and identity as Reagan, we can safely assume they’ll let him get away with uttering any words on any subject.
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In addition, ask yourself this question, will those same Republicans let Trump get away with trying for another term in 2028…..
 
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