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Trump administration 2024-2028

PPCLI Guy said:
Really glad I work with both an AI company, and a robotics company (cheap reliable labour). Just need an SMR company to cover all my bases...
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Which, at some point, should bring back the Henry Ford great discovery when he concluded and decided that he should pay his employees a higher than average wage: If you mass produce something for the people, you have to make sure the greatest mass of people have money to buy it.

If robots and AI take over producing the worlds good but cause unemployment of most people in the world, their mass producing anything ain't gonna make them rich: it's gonna cause mass revolutions.
 
If people making $80,000/yr can’t afford a home, I think we’re in trouble. Not being able to afford a PC or a Play Station will send things over the edge.
 
PPCLI Guy said:
The biggest threat that AI poses is it's insatiable demand for electricity and water.....and sooner or later global companies, elites, and corrupt states will choose AI over humans for those limfacs...

Really glad I work with both an AI company, and a robotics company (cheap reliable labour). Just need an SMR company to cover all my bases...
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Sounds like they need to figure out a full circle solution. Maybe Iceland is a better spot. Geothermal for electricity and heat, seawater for cooling. Sell the excess capacity back to the government utility.
 
Altair said:


Loooooooooooooks like someone has learned that tariffs MIGHT just increase the prices on Americans.

Also despite saying that inflation is a Democrat hoax, he seems to be feeling the pressure enough to reverse course on at least some tariffs.
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W-what? Are you telling me American's are the ones paying his tariffs?!

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ModlrMike said:
Sounds like they need to figure out a full circle solution. Maybe Iceland is a better spot. Geothermal for electricity and heat, seawater for cooling. Sell the excess capacity back to the government utility.
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Build SMRs in our North near water sources. They can power and cool data centers and greenhouses, the later using automated labour.
 
Oldgateboatdriver said:
Which, at some point, should bring back the Henry Ford great discovery when he concluded and decided that he should pay his employees a higher than average wage: If you mass produce something for the people, you have to make sure the greatest mass of people have money to buy it.

If robots and AI take over producing the worlds good but cause unemployment of most people in the world, their mass producing anything ain't gonna make them rich: it's gonna cause mass revolutions.
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Or....reduce the amount of humans. #viruscull
 
PPCLI Guy said:
Or....reduce the amount of humans. #viruscull
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Funny enough, in my first university Macroeconomics class, the teacher told us: "If the government asks you to propose solutions to increase the GDP per capita of the country, you have to tell them they can either increase GDP or reduce the number of capita. It's not your job to decide which is moral and which is not".
 
Oldgateboatdriver said:
Funny enough, in my first university Macroeconomics class, the teacher told us: "If the government asks you to propose solutions to increase the GDP per capita of the country, you have to tell them they can either increase GDP or reduce the number of capita. It's not your job to decide which is moral and which is not".
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Like the NDP approach to 2% spending on Defence. Adopt policies that will shrink the economy......
 
PPCLI Guy said:
Or....reduce the amount of humans. #viruscull
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Taken seriously, the number of people is predicted to shortly peak and then start declining. More automation will be desirable, and should improve productivity and eventually shorten conventional working time, with undetermined effects on birth rates. There will probably be a floor, above zero, under birth rates. If improved lives do not get birth rates back up above replacement, we go extinct, but I suspect the desire to have children is suppressed by the amount of working time needed to sustain a family. I would expect to find some region within which the world population at least approximately stabilizes, or resumes increasing.

A system of differential equations to be solved, if someone wanted to observe (measure) the system and model it.

The labour shortage created by the Black Plague improved the lives of the surviving peasants.

Canada already has labour shortages, particularly in public services, unless all the ads unions in BC are running on TV are bullshit. (In some cases, given statutory requirements, labour shortages are certainly real.)
 
Oldgateboatdriver said:
Which, at some point, should bring back the Henry Ford great discovery when he concluded and decided that he should pay his employees a higher than average wage: If you mass produce something for the people, you have to make sure the greatest mass of people have money to buy it.

If robots and AI take over producing the worlds good but cause unemployment of most people in the world, their mass producing anything ain't gonna make them rich: it's gonna cause mass revolutions.
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UBI and a 1950s tax structure might be our only way outta this.
 
PrairieFella said:
UBI and a 1950s tax structure might be our only way outta this.
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UBI is a counter-incentive to putting in the effort to find work and stick at it.

"The way out" is usually something that spontaneously emerges despite government efforts to force it in a particular direction.
 
Brad Sallows said:
UBI is a counter-incentive to putting in the effort to find work and stick at it.

"The way out" is usually something that spontaneously emerges despite government efforts to force it in a particular direction.
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If AI gets to the point where its proponents envision it going, governments wont have a choice. 20-30% unemployment anyone? Great way to start a revolution.
 
PrairieFella said:
If AI gets to the point where its proponents envision it going, governments wont have a choice. 20-30% unemployment anyone? Great way to start a revolution.
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Less point worrying about that cliff than worrying about the next economic downturn hitting everyone in the middle of their current spending sprees in what is, mostly, a decently-performing economy.
 
Oldgateboatdriver said:
Funny enough, in my first university Macroeconomics class, the teacher told us: "If the government asks you to propose solutions to increase the GDP per capita of the country, you have to tell them they can either increase GDP or reduce the number of capita. It's not your job to decide which is moral and which is not".
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“I could end the deficit in five minutes. You just pass a law that says that anytime there is a deficit of more than 3% of GDP all sitting members of congress are ineligible for reelection.”

― Warren Buffet
 
daftandbarmy said:
“I could end the deficit in five minutes. You just pass a law that says that anytime there is a deficit of more than 3% of GDP all sitting members of congress are ineligible for reelection.”

― Warren Buffet
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You would have to tie up almost every navy ship, confine troops to their barracks, stand down units, ground most USAF aircraft, stop all further military contracts.
Cancel thousands of infrastructure projects. It would be basically like the recent shutdown, but longer and worse.
 
Colin Parkinson said:
You would have to tie up almost every navy ship, confine troops to their barracks, stand down units, ground most USAF aircraft, stop all further military contracts.
Cancel thousands of infrastructure projects. It would be basically like the recent shutdown, but longer and worse.
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If it's done overnight, yes. Not if done gradually. And it doesn't take long to see effect. All that's needed is a healthy difference between revenues and program spending (which, aside from short one to two year real crisis periods and their aftermaths, is a choice) for a few years.
 
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