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Trump administration 2024-2028

Brad Sallows said:
It turns out that proper redaction is time-consuming and maybe a little bit difficult.

Didn't get everything out on time - scandalous.

Might have over-redacted - scandalous.

Withdrew some released stuff for (review? do the reasons even matter to critics?) - scandalous.

Incompetent redactions - scandalous.

Only the fourth one is truly scandalous (potential release of some of that which was to be protected). But the sum of all this suggests there is no counterfactual practical scenario in which all of the necessary, and only the necessary, redactions could be made on time and securely in accordance with the legislation. So what we have is what we always have - news cycle after news cycle of excuses for manufactured outrage. Scandals, all the way down. Kobayashi Maru as usual.
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They did all the time consuming parts. Drawing the black boxes and noting the statutory grounds to redact them is the part that takes a long time. Applying the redactions is a mouse click. The biggest part of my job for much of the last couple years has been building and disclosing document sets for criminal prosecutions, so this has been my bread and butter. Going to all the work to draw the black boxes and then leaving the text selectable and copyable is absolutely bush league.

They did a halfassed job of the redactions and even then still botched what they actually did.
 
FJAG said:
I don't know about the police field but in the law one, two and a bit decades ago the search for a software solution that would really, really redact an electronic document permanently was a major issue. At the time there were several solutions that did redaction but could still be compromised.

I would have thought that by this time that there would be a foolproof tool and that DoJ would have it widely deployed.

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Print the document, redact physically by blanking, felt pen, cutting, scan remaining bits and upload.
 
Colin Parkinson said:
Print the document, redact physically by blanking, felt pen, cutting, scan remaining bits and upload.
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No, you just use the super simple functionality built into Acrobat Pro that cleanly and reliably does a proper job of this. Guarantee DOJ already has teams of e-discovery pros who do this all day every day for a wide range of civil and criminal litigation. I really can’t wrap my head around how they were this inept.
 
RangerRay said:
Here is part of the 60 Minutes report the Trump Administration did not want you to see. Bari Weiss, whom I used to have a lot of respect for, had the report pulled at the last minute because the Administration refused to comment, despite the opportunity given to do so. If this is a new editorial standard, then subjects of embarrassing news stories can just refuse to comment, vetoing the publication of embarrassing stories.

Anyways, the story in question was posted on the Global Canada app before it too was deleted. Here is a part of that story, which is horrific.

www.thereset.news

BREAKING: Here’s the 60 Minutes Segment Trump and CBS News Executives Don’t Want You to See

Hours before it was set to air last night, CBS News executives pulled the segment, but Canada’s Global TV app received it prior to broadcast.
www.thereset.news www.thereset.news
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There are some limited sources to learn more about CECOT and discover what happens there, when I first heard about there was a fair bit of content put on youtube from international sources, including many who actually got in there and got tours and some, in my opinion, staged interviews with inmates.

It may not be a death camp (As far as we know, the inmates aren't executed) but it's a place where people are essentially permanently disposed of, in many cases without fair trial. It doesn't seem like many people have ever gotten out. The cruel nature of this place is immediately obvious.

I think this is a big wrong side of history moment, when the truth comes out and becomes widespread, I expect it's going to be ugly.
 
McG said:
Maybe half-assed. Maybe someone knew what they were doing and wanted the truth discovered.
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Possible? I think it’s more likely they pulled a tiger team together to tackle this, and some of that team didn’t know what they were doing and were inadequately supervised.
 
Lumber said:
I think he was referring to more significant NATO partners dragging their heels. I'm looking at Turkey, Greece and Spain... Basically all of Southern Europe minus Italy.
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And let's not forget Hungary being maybe ... less than fully & enthusiastically on board fighting USSR 2.0.
 
Mills Bomb said:
I think this is a big wrong side of history moment, when the truth comes out and becomes widespread, I expect it's going to be ugly.
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And people who don't know Weiss's themes might also be on the wrong side. Weiss is typically strong on civil liberties.

"We need to do a better job of explaining the legal rationale by which the administration detained and deported these 252 Venezuelans to CECOT. It's not as simple as Trump invoking the Alien Enemies Act and being able to deport them immediately. And that isn't the administration's argument. The admin has argued in court that detainees are due "judicial review"—and we should explain this, with a voice arguing that Trump is exceeding his authority under the relevant statute, and another arguing that he's operating within the bounds of his authority. There's a genuine debate here. If we cut down Kristi Noem analysis we'd have the time."

One way of setting a frame to interpret that is that she's trying to give the administration room to make excuses.

Another way is that she's trying to give the administration no room to hide - if they make their best case and it doesn't pass public and legal muster, they're cooked. If they do make a case, it should (will, given the way their ramblings are treated now) prompt pushback from activists and scholars and civil libertarians in general which could lead to reform.
 
Since the topic is being discussed, you can easily find and watch it for yourselves now.

Pulled ‘60 Minutes’ segment airs in Canada, spreads online​

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In fact in the spirit of giving, here you go.

archive.org

Pulled 60 Minutes segment on CECOT : CBS : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

This is a screen recording of a 60 Minutes segment about the Centro de Confinamiento del Terrorismo (CECOT) prison in El Salvador, which was intended to be...
archive.org

https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1ptk38x/the_60_minutes_segment_covering_the_detainment_of
 
Retired AF Guy said:
SCOTUS hands big loss to POTUS ruling he did not have the authority to Federalize the National Guard to enforce laws in Illinois.
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Impossible. Must be fake news. SCOTUS is in POTUS's pocket and the US is minutes away from becoming authoritarian/fascist.
 
Brad Sallows said:
Impossible. Must be fake news. SCOTUS is in POTUS's pocket and the US is minutes away from becoming authoritarian/fascist.
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They aren’t far off. The separation of powers is the only thing preventing it currently.

They are doing the same thing my company does with my union. Have so many grievances filed (in this case court cases) that by time it’s heard the damages have long been done.
 
Eaglelord17 said:
They aren’t far off. The separation of powers is the only thing preventing it currently.
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Statement of obvious. The separation of powers is always the only thing preventing "it" - where "it" is almost any flavour of more centralized executive-centric government. The point is that another nail has been driven into each of the coffins of the theory that SCOTUS answers to Trump and the more general theory that US institutions are about to collapse into the necessary vestigial states required for the conditions of "authoritarianism" to be satisfied.
 
Staff note: Moved all the Trump-class ship traffic to this new thread on that here.

Army.ca Staff
 
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