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Bad typo. The world didn't end because of my actions is what I wanted to say! Sorry!
Two x new kitchens, eating messes for CFB Borden
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Technoviking said:
I'm sorry you felt the need to throw your icecream on the floor and stomp your feet.
I've been to a few bases with combined dinning facilities and the world there has not ended (even in the one with no rank-based seperate areas). I have been to bases where the drinking mess was combined and the world still did not end.
I suspect that the world will not end in Borden either.
TV, i'm sorry but i have to wonder why you went the officer route......it's just food.
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To begin with, I haven't thrown my icecream, teddy bear or other "children's toys" in the corner, because I'm not a child throwing a tantrum. But there is a reason why the three messes are separated. "Cohesion" between the messes isn't a problem that needs to be rectified. But even if it's "just food", I go back to the four "F's" of leadership, as learned way back in the 20th Century on my Infantry Section Commander's Course:CDN Aviator said:
Firm
Fair
Friendly
but never Familiar.
Dining in the same mess hall, separated by dividers or not, allows for a certain sense of "familiarity". It may be "just food" for you, I also use my time dining (when I have to eat at the mess) to talk shop, to socialise and so forth, much more than just injest calories, nutrients, etc.
Now, I'm not trying to say that I as an officer wish to be separated from "the great unwashed". Not at all. But there is a time and place for everything. And if I can't sit down to a meal without having to worry about whether or not my subordinates are critiquing how I eat, or if they are in earshot, preventing me from discussing certain things, or even just to relax, well, there's a problem, IMPO.
And as a Jr. Rank, way back when, I know for a fact that I didn't have to worry about my superiors watching me, eating or otherwise.
Now, on a personal note, I don't have to justify to you why I went the officer route. If you feel that I'm being an elitist, a snob, or a classist, please come forth and state so in the open. I have done "okay" as an officer, and I'm not about to explain my reasons.
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Technoviking said:
Thank you for the leadership lesson, i will go turn in my crowns forthwith.
My time in dining halls is spent no different.
Then those things probably should be discussed elsewhere in the first place.
Now, how did we ever manage to lead throughout OP MOBILE.......i lived in a 3-bedroom apartment with 5 other people, 2 of which were Captains. I did not only eat with them, we cooked our meals together and did the grocery shopping together. We still managed to know who is boss and still managed to fight the war.
Nor do i want you to. In the end i couldn't care less. But you did make a big deal about eating with other ranks and your co mission. I wondered but i did not ask you for an answer.
...And yes, i understand the differences between the cultures of the various elements. Even the Army has managed to have combined dining facilities elsewhere.
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CDN Aviator said:
Apparently you do care.
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You love me, you really love me
But, in all seriousness, dogs won't be living with cats, north won't go to the bottom of the map, and the sun will still rise, I get that. It's my opinion, that's all.
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Technoviking said:You love me, you really love me
It's hard not too, even if you are being elitist, a snob and a clasist.
;D
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Technoviking said:I was thinking of making one giant aircraft carrier, on wheels. >
As long as it spews death, i'm ok with that !
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Technoviking said:
But it all spews death, right ?
It doesn't work without spewing death !
