U.S. Annexing Canada (split fm Liberal Minority thread)

[QV]

I was thinking like the EU. You know, the one more then half you people championed when Brexit was all the rage?

 

[brihard]

I was thinking like the EU. You know, the one more then half you people championed when Brexit was all the rage?

So, a common currency, a legislature with certain overriding legislative authority over the existing American and Canadian legislatures, free residency and immigration between the two, and complete duty-free movement of goods and services? Anything significant you’d like to see that I’m missing?

 

[Remius]

I was thinking like the EU. You know, the one more then half you people championed when Brexit was all the rage?

Right. I thought you were a Brexiter, Wexiter and let QC go its own way kind of guy. What changed exactly?

 

[dimsum]

Right. I thought you were a Brexiter, Wexiter and let QC go its own way kind of guy. What changed exactly?

Probably saw how great Brexit was going.

 

[mariomike]

Tucker put it this way back in Jan., 2023,

Why are we not sending an armed force north to liberate Canada from Trudeau? And I mean it.

Readers may recall Tucker was a vocal supporter of the “Freedom Convoy”.

 

[QV]

It continues to be an interesting topic.

For those highly critical of Brexit. Why completely opposed to any kind of Cdn/US union?

 

[brihard]

It continues to be an interesting topic.

For those highly critical of Brexit. Why completely opposed to any kind of Cdn/US union?

Still trying to get a sense of what you mean by that. Did I sum it up accurately or did I miss anything significant?

I’m prepared to continue with the conversation from there once we have that definition reasonably firm.

 

[Remius]

It continues to be an interesting topic.

For those highly critical of Brexit. Why completely opposed to any kind of Cdn/US union?

You have yet to define that union.

 

[suffolkowner]

if we sell Canada to the US, whats my share? Once I know that I'll let you know my position

 

[brihard]

if we sell Canada to the US, whats my share? Once I know that I'll let you know my position

There are definitely more than a few people lining up for their thirty pieces of silver.

 

[suffolkowner]

There are definitely more than a few people lining up for their thirty pieces of silver.

i think i heard $1.5 Trillion for Greenland

 

[lenaitch]

overriding legislative authority over the existing American and Canadian legislatures

I'm sure Kevin would promote that with The Donald. The US won't even sign on to most treaties.

"Give a common currency, figure out taxes across the board, get everything trading both ways, create a new, almost EU-like passport. I like this idea, and at least half of Canadians are interested.

. . .

The 41 million Canadians, I think most of them would trust me on this deal.”

I doubt most of us would trust Mr. Wonderful to sell us a used car.

 

[mariomike]

Be interesting to know how over 41 million Canadians feel about turning their ten provinces and three territories ( the world's second-largest country by total area ) with the world's longest coastline, into one U.S. state under President Trump.

 

[JLB50]

I, as just one of 41 million, am dead set against it in any shape or form. I only hope that the majority of Canadians will stand up to, not only Trump, but all the Canadian federal, provincial and municipal politicians who have sold us down the river. We owe it to ourselves as well as those who worked hard and those who fought and died to make this a great country. We may not be the country we had been but the U.S. isn’t the country it had been either, otherwise Trump wouldn’t have campaigned to Make America Great Again.

I speak as someone who was born in the U.S. and, while I love to go back and visit, I think that Canada, despite its many imperfections, is still a great country. Unfortunately all too many of those Canadians who trash Canada seem to think that everything is better in the U.S.

 

[QV]

Still trying to get a sense of what you mean by that. Did I sum it up accurately or did I miss anything significant?

I’m prepared to continue with the conversation from there once we have that definition reasonably firm.

Are you now? What makes you think I’m interested in this discussion with you? There are plenty of others on here who are happy to have dialogue without an arrogant approach.

 

[brihard]

Are you now? What makes you think I’m interested in this discussion with you? There are plenty of others on here who are happy to have dialogue without an arrogant approach.

…because when I first asked earlier, politely and reasonably, you replied, also politely and reasonably? It partly but didn’t fully answer my question so I asked to make sure I understood what you were saying and whether I was missing anything.

If you were interested before and are not now, that’s fine. Just working with what you gave me to work with.

 

[OldSolduer]

There are definitely more than a few people lining up for their thirty pieces of silver.

Then let them move to the US and see how good it is there before they sell out.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

I have always seen the US as a more successful version of the EU, with each State acting very much like a separate country at times. From a purely economic point of view, it makes no sense not to be part of the US. It is the political and culture issues that make it unworkable.

 

[daftandbarmy]

I have always seen the US as a more successful version of the EU, with each State acting very much like a separate country at times. From a purely economic point of view, it makes no sense not to be part of the US. It is the political and culture issues that make it unworkable.

We should make it clear we don't want to associate too closely with losers.

As in their sacred sport of baseball: three strikes, you're out

War of 1812 Overview​

American armies invaded Canada in 1812 at three points, but all three campaigns ended in failure. One army surrendered at Detroit at the western end of Lake Erie, a second army surrendered at Queenston Heights at the other end of the lake, and a third army withdrew after little more than a skirmish north of New York.

War of 1812 Overview - USS Constitution Museum

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[brihard]

I have always seen the US as a more successful version of the EU, with each State acting very much like a separate country at times. From a purely economic point of view, it makes no sense not to be part of the US. It is the political and culture issues that make it unworkable.

While there’s talk of an economic ‘union’ between Canada and the U.S., we have 12% of their population. That would not be a ‘union’, it would be an absorption. We would not be creating a shared currency; we would be adopting the U.S. dollar. We would not be coequal partners in setting monetary policy. We would be setting Canada up to be steamrolled in all decision making. We would be ceding considerable real and perceived sovereignty to a nation that’s increasingly isolationist and erratic, and which definitely has a covetous eye for a lot of our resource wealth.

There is strain in the current Canada-US relationship, but it’s not broken. We can negotiate individual treaties and agreements where needed.

It surprises me to see a lot of the people who condemn PMJT for calling us a ‘post-national state’ lining up to advocate for less Canadian sovereignty and less independence from the U.S.

We can work to improve CAN-US relations by working on addressing real security concerns, while also firmly saying that we are and will remain an independent Canada.

If Canadians want to be American, they can move to America… If they have anything to offer that the U.S. immigration system wants.