U.S. sailor leaked info about Canadian warship

[Timmy!]

Yes. Very much so.

Let's get old sparky out. Make an example out of him.

:evil:

 

[M Feetham]

I have to agree with one of the posts from earlier, this guy is going to jail for passing information that wasn't even right. Good job dumbass, you deserve to die, just for being that stupid. Anybody with a 10 year old copy of Jane's fighting ships would be able to give more accurate information. I guess we are not the only force in the world that are lowering the standard for getting in.
That's my rant.
Marc

 

[midget-boyd91]

Let's get old sparky out. Make an example out of him.

:evil:

Can I call dibs on the honors of pulling the lever?  :skull:

BUT....... As much as it would be acceptable for death to come to him... the fact that the info was wrong, makes spending the rest of his miserable twisted little life behind equally (or maybe more) acceptable.

 

[Kiwi99]

What would have been worth telling the enemy was the capability that a Canadian ship can actually leave port in the first place.  I love how all this info can be found open source on the internet.  And I love how so many people  think this guy should be killed.  He's a Muslim!  Yah, lets make a martyr out of him, great idea!!!  Sounds tough when ya talk about killing though, doesnt it.  Good one all ya killers out there.

 

[Scoobie Newbie]

Personally I don't care if he's a W.A.S.P.  I still feel the same way.  A traitor is the lowest of the low and should be handled accordingly.

 

[Hawk]

Agreed! I can see Kiwi99's point, in a way. Because he's Muslim-the Muslim community might make a martyr of him-at least in some places. Even so, a traitor's a traitor-I don't care what his nationality is. Even if he's stupid; maybe because he's stupid-he should get the death penalty. To quote my "better half", "anything that stupid shouldn't be allowed to breed."


Hawk

 

[28402 engineers]

Just imagine how stupid he must have felt after not only being busted, but learning that the info he leaked was false.  :rofl:
I think he should go straight to solitary confinement, but not be killed. that way, he can think about what he has done....

 

[IN HOC SIGNO]

What would have been worth telling the enemy was the capability that a Canadian ship can actually leave port in the first place.  I love how all this info can be found open source on the internet.  And I love how so many people  think this guy should be killed.  He's a Muslim!  Yah, lets make a martyr out of him, great idea!!!  Sounds tough when ya talk about killing though, doesnt it.  Good one all ya killers out there.

I guess the first part of your response is intended as a slam against the Navy eh Kiwi. We are quite capable of leaving port and holding our own in a Task Force with our Allies. As a matter of fact the Winnipeg was a valued player in the TG that this thread was referring to. If we can manage to get some gas money every now and then it's amazing what we can do. You should take a tour someday of a Canadian Frigate they are quite a handy little piece of kit.
I think everyone is appalled at a traitor passing information to our enemies...that is an offense that has been punishable by death, exile or a lengthy imprisonment no matter what your race or religion.

 

[civmick]

re: death for treason - wasn't the last US execution for treason in the late 40s?

 

[Yrys]

Ex-sailor convicted of giving Navy secrets to terror supporters

NEW HAVEN, Connecticut (AP)  -- A former Navy sailor was convicted Wednesday of leaking details about ship movements to suspected terrorism supporters, an act that could have endangered his crew mates.

A former Navy signalman has been convicted of leaking information, including the planned movements of his battle group. Jurors convicted Hassan Abu-Jihaad, 32,
of Phoenix, Arizona, of providing material support to terrorists and disclosing classified national defense information.

The American-born Muslim convert formerly known as Paul R. Hall could face 25 years in federal prison when he is sentenced May 23. His attorneys said an appeal
was likely. The leak came amid increased wariness on the part of U.S. Navy commanders whose ships headed to the Persian Gulf in the months after a terrorist
ambush in Yemen in 2000 killed 17 sailors aboard the USS Cole.

Abu-Jihaad, who was a signalman aboard the guided missile destroyer USS Benfold, was accused of passing along details that included the makeup of his Navy battle
group, its planned movements and a drawing of the group's formation when it was to pass through the dangerous Strait of Hormuz in the Persian Gulf on April 29, 2001.
Abu-Jihaad's attorney said a four-year investigation that spanned two continents failed to turn up proof that Abu-Jihaad leaked details of ship movements and their
vulnerability to attack.

Federal prosecutors said he sympathized with the enemy and admitted disclosing military intelligence. But they acknowledged they did not have direct proof that he
leaked the ship details. Authorities said the details of ship movements had to have been leaked by an insider, saying they were not publicly known and contained military
jargon. The leaked documents closely matched what Abu-Jihaad would have had access to as a signalman, authorities said.

Dan LaBelle, Abu-Jihaad's attorney, tried to show that many details of ship movements he was accused of leaking to suspected terrorism supporters were publicly
available through news reports, press releases and Web sites. He also noted that Navy officials testified that the details were full of errors.  Prosecutors say investigators
discovered files on a computer disk recovered from a suspected terrorism supporter's home in London that included the ship movements, as well as the number and
type of personnel on each ship and the ships' capabilities. The file ended with instructions to destroy the message, according to testimony.

Abu-Jihaad was charged in the same case that led to the 2004 arrest of Babar Ahmad, a British computer specialist accused of running Web sites to raise money,
appeal for fighters and provide equipment such as gas masks and night vision goggles for terrorists. Ahmad, who lived with his parents where the computer file was
allegedly found, is to be extradited to the United States.

Abu-Jihaad, who was honorably discharged in 2002, was prosecuted in New Haven because the investigation first focused on a Connecticut-based Internet service provider.

 

[geo]

Don't let the cell door hit you in the a$$ on yo9ur way in!

Good riddance to someone who has chosen to sell out his country's armed forces AND the comrades who sailed with him.