US Presidential Election 2024 - Trump vs Harris - Vote Hard with a Vengence

[KevinB]

Saw an interesting opinion on the silent vote Harris might get from some republicans. In a lit of areas you that house with a million trump signs and flags but all the houses nearby have nothing. No trump signs and no Harris signs. The thought is that they might be silent voters for Harris.

I think though it could go either way.

I think a lot of women will be voting for Harris.

My wife and several of her friends are republicans, but more socially liberal, and see the recent actions of the Republican parties as an attack on women.

She was mocking me a few months ago about me being prepared to vote for Harris, due to my extreme dislike, and distrust of former President Trump, and now I suspect she may vote blue across the board.

My neighborhood was 110% Trump last election, this year there are no lawn signs, and no one seems to want to talk politics, I suspect everyone is concerned about airing their thoughts.

 

[Lumber]

The "President of Peace" they say..

This works so well for the LPC.

Disagree, but, let's keep this American, OK? Not everything is an opportunity to start a session of of the F*ck Trudeau pity party.

 

[brihard]

My neighborhood was 110% Trump last election, this year there are no lawn signs, and no one seems to want to talk politics, I suspect everyone is concerned about airing their thoughts.

If it goes Harris it’ll be interesting seeing how America shakes the political hangover and catches its breath from dodging the bullet.

 

[suffolkowner]

Harris still needs to take Pennsylvania to win IMO. Awfully hard to win without it

 

[Pelorus]

Humans naturally find it easier to empathize with stories that they can relate to their own lives. As more and more of these types of stories come to light, of preventable deaths of young mothers due to doctors and hospitals delaying treatment due to fear of prosecution under vague abortion restrictions, it's inevitable that women who were traditional Republican voters are going to see them as an attack on their bodily autonomy:

A Texas Woman Died After Waiting 40 Hours for Miscarriage Care

Josseli Barnica is one of at least two pregnant Texas women who died after doctors delayed emergency care. She’d told her husband that the medical team said it couldn’t act until the fetal heartbeat stopped.

www.propublica.org

A Pregnant Teenager Died After Trying to Get Care in Three Visits to Texas Emergency Rooms

It took three ER visits and 20 hours before a hospital admitted Nevaeh Crain, 18, as her condition worsened. Doctors insisted on two ultrasounds to confirm “fetal demise.” She’s one of at least two Texas women who died under the state’s abortion ban.

www.propublica.org

 

[Lumber]

Harris still needs to take Pennsylvania to win IMO. Awfully hard to win without it

Yea if they don't get Pennsylvania, then they need either of NC or Georgia PLUS both AZ and NV. If they lose Penn, NC, AND Georgia, it's over. (this is all assuming they get both WI and MN, if they lose one of those it get very complicated).

But I'm now predicting a Harris SWEEP of the battle ground states. Final tally: 319 to 219. (and that's assuming that none of Texas, Florida or Iowa flip blue).

 

[Jarnhamar]

Disagree, but, let's keep this American, OK? Not everything is an opportunity to start a session of of the F*ck Trudeau pity party.

I'll be more selective where I go looking for pity in the future.

 

[OldSolduer]

If it goes Harris it’ll be interesting seeing how America shakes the political hangover and catches its breath from dodging the bullet.

They better get their crap wired tight. It could be very nasty further down the road.

 

[suffolkowner]

Yea if they don't get Pennsylvania, then they need either of NC or Georgia PLUS both AZ and NV. If they lose Penn, NC, AND Georgia, it's over. (this is all assuming they get both WI and MN, if they lose one of those it get very complicated).

But I'm now predicting a Harris SWEEP of the battle ground states. Final tally: 319 to 219. (and that's assuming that none of Texas, Florida or Iowa flip blue).

only one of AZ or NV I think

-19 for Penn and
+6 NV
+11 AZ
+16 GA
+16 NC

 

[Jarnhamar]

Humans naturally find it easier to empathize with stories that they can relate to their own lives. As more and more of these types of stories come to light, of preventable deaths of young mothers due to doctors and hospitals delaying treatment due to fear of prosecution under vague abortion restrictions, it's inevitable that women who were traditional Republican voters are going to see them as an attack on their bodily autonomy:

Roe V. Wade was overturned while Biden was the president and Harris the VP. Will a Harris-Walz government legalize abortion in the US and make it protected under the constitution?

 

[mariomike]

, this year there are no lawn signs,

If you don't mind me asking, when can election signs be displayed, and when must they be removed, in your community?

In our city,

For municipal elections, election signs can be displayed 25 days prior to election day.

For provincial and federal elections, election signs can be displayed from the day the writ of election is issued.

When the day the writ of election is issued falls on a date of religious or cultural significance, election signs cannot be displayed until the following day.

Election signs must be removed 72 hours after the completion of voting on election day.

They cannot be larger than 1.2 square metres in area and higher than two metres above ground level, or illuminated or attached to trees.

, and no one seems to want to talk politics,

That must be a relief from neighbourhood political fanatics.

, I suspect everyone is concerned about airing their thoughts.

Perhaps they air them on their keyboards.

She was mocking me a few months ago about me being prepared to vote for Harris, due to my extreme dislike, and distrust of former President Trump, and now I suspect she may vote blue across the board.

My wife votes in their elections. She's not political, but feels it is her "civic duty".

 

[brihard]

Humans naturally find it easier to empathize with stories that they can relate to their own lives. As more and more of these types of stories come to light, of preventable deaths of young mothers due to doctors and hospitals delaying treatment due to fear of prosecution under vague abortion restrictions, it's inevitable that women who were traditional Republican voters are going to see them as an attack on their bodily autonomy:

A Texas Woman Died After Waiting 40 Hours for Miscarriage Care

Josseli Barnica is one of at least two pregnant Texas women who died after doctors delayed emergency care. She’d told her husband that the medical team said it couldn’t act until the fetal heartbeat stopped.

www.propublica.org

A Pregnant Teenager Died After Trying to Get Care in Three Visits to Texas Emergency Rooms

It took three ER visits and 20 hours before a hospital admitted Nevaeh Crain, 18, as her condition worsened. Doctors insisted on two ultrasounds to confirm “fetal demise.” She’s one of at least two Texas women who died under the state’s abortion ban.

www.propublica.org

I’m still trying to wrap my head around how Quirky and Fishbone find those women who died seeking medical care hilarious. I must not get the joke.

 

[Pelorus]

Roe V. Wade was overturned while Biden was the president and Harris the VP. Will a Harris-Walz government legalize abortion in the US and make it protected under the constitution?

With the polarization in the US, I think the odds of passing a constitutional amendment on literally anything is near zero.

 

[brihard]

With the polarization in the US, I think the odds of passing a constitutional amendment on literally anything is near zero.

Yup, agreed. Their amendment formula has a high bar. I’d say the U.S. constitution in written form is pretty much crystallized now.

 

[Furniture]

I’m still trying to wrap my head around how Quirky and Fishbone find those women who died seeking medical care hilarious. I must not get the joke.

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It's not a hard stretch to see that they are laughing at linking Trump to an issue that came up under a Democrat presidency, and was decided at the Supreme Court, not based on a presidential order.

The fact you're trying to make it about them being bad is just as in poor taste as their laugh emojis...

It's interesting that people will link a state's decision to the federal politician they dislike, while in Canadian politics threads will mention that things like housing aren't federal jurisdiction when a politician they don't like has opinions/offers a plan on provincial matters.

 

[Lumber]

Assuming that Quirky's posting on this forum is reflective of who he is and not just middle school-esque shitposting, he's almost certainly a sociopath and shouldn't be taken seriously under any circumstances.

Fish wanted to make it clear that I was on his ignore list, so not sure how he saw the post. Guess the temptation was too great.

At this point I'm just posting to give Fishbone a good laugh. I feel like he needs it. #armchairbros

 

[Quirky]

Sociopaths will likely support sociopaths

If Trump is a 'garbage' candidate, Harris is a 'vacuous sociopath': Full Comment podcast

It’s the final hours of a “dumpster fire” of a presidential election, as guest and American political writer J.D. Tuccille calls it.

nationalpost.com

 

[brihard]

It's not a hard stretch to see that they are laughing at linking Trump to an issue that came up under a Democrat presidency, and was decided at the Supreme Court, not based on a presidential order.

The fact you're trying to make it about them being bad is just as in poor taste as their laugh emojis...

It's interesting that people will link a state's decision to the federal politician they dislike, while in Canadian politics threads will mention that things like housing aren't federal jurisdiction when a politician they don't like has opinions/offers a plan on provincial matters.

It happened because of changes to Texas law following a Dobbs v Jackson, a Supreme Court ruling Trump has cheered on, made by a Republican majority that is the result of three of his appointees. He has explicitly applauded and taken credit for the reversal of Roe v Wade, but nice try. The deaths are squarely the result of Republican policy curtailing women’s rights and putting limits on their reproductive health. That policy manifests both at State legislative levels, and in Republican judicial appointments.

I’m not painting them as ‘bad’ for having those views; they did that themselves and I’m just pointing it out. If either of them want to explain what part of this is funny I’m sure they’re capable of doing so and maybe at the end we’ll all see the light and have a laugh. (Except for those two women I mean.)

It just goes to show how much partisan politics can impact one’s ethics and decency.

 

[suffolkowner]

Humans naturally find it easier to empathize with stories that they can relate to their own lives. As more and more of these types of stories come to light, of preventable deaths of young mothers due to doctors and hospitals delaying treatment due to fear of prosecution under vague abortion restrictions, it's inevitable that women who were traditional Republican voters are going to see them as an attack on their bodily autonomy:

A Texas Woman Died After Waiting 40 Hours for Miscarriage Care

Josseli Barnica is one of at least two pregnant Texas women who died after doctors delayed emergency care. She’d told her husband that the medical team said it couldn’t act until the fetal heartbeat stopped.

www.propublica.org

A Pregnant Teenager Died After Trying to Get Care in Three Visits to Texas Emergency Rooms

It took three ER visits and 20 hours before a hospital admitted Nevaeh Crain, 18, as her condition worsened. Doctors insisted on two ultrasounds to confirm “fetal demise.” She’s one of at least two Texas women who died under the state’s abortion ban.

www.propublica.org

Women and infants will die that otherwise would not given the SC decision and subsequent state implementation

Women because they are denied care and infants because they weren't aborted earlier

That doesnt seem likely to change unless the Democrats manage to be in the position to change the composition of the SC

 

[Jarnhamar]

Women and infants will die that otherwise would not given the SC decision and subsequent state implementation

Abortions takes lives that otherwise would become infants and women too though.