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U.S. Air Force Secretary, Chief To Be Asked To Resign

U.S. Air Force Secretary Michael W. Wynne and Chief of Staff Gen. T Michael Moseley are expected to be asked to resign today, Defense News has learned.

The stunning development follows a series of high-profile scandals and disagreements between Air Force leadership and Defense Secretary Robert Gates during the past year, during which both the Pentagon and Congressional leadership have increasingly expressed frustration about the Air Force's top bosses.

The last straw appears to be a report on nuclear weapons handling by Navy Adm. Kirkland Donald, director of naval nuclear propulsion. The critical report convinced Gates that changes must be made.

Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Adm. Mike Mullen recalled Moseley to Washington for an early morning meeting today. Moseley had been hosting a four-star conclave of top Air Force leaders at the thrice-yearly Corona leadership conference at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio. Following that meeting Moseley returned to Corona with Air Force public affairs chief Brig. Gen. Darren McDew.

Deputy Defense Secretary Gordon England is en route to Wright-Patterson, sources said. He is expected to meet with Wynne and ask for his resignation.

It is not clear how quickly these changes could take effect.

Navy Capt. John Kirby, Mullen's spokesman, declined to comment but did not deny the story.

It is not yet known who will succeed both men, but Air Force Vice Chief of Staff Gen. Duncan McNabb will likely become acting chief of staff.

Sources said other senior officers could also be relieved.
 
Scandal  and policy disagreements?

Top 2 Air Force Officials to Resign
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,363495,00.html

Both the top uniformed officer of the Air Force and its civilian leader were asked Thursday to submit their resignations.

Air Force Chief of Staff Michael Moseley and Air Force Secretary Michael Wynne will resign by the end of the day, two sets of sources told FOX News. Defense Secretary Robert Gates is mulling names of possible replacements.

Gates has publicly identified a number of problems recently with the Air Force, including last year's accidental flight of nuclear weapons on a B-52 bomber, and Moseley's ties to contract problems over the Air Force Thunderbird air show.

Moseley was not singled out for blame, but the investigation laid out a trail of communications from him and other Air Force leaders that eventually influenced the 2005 contract award. Included in that were friendly e-mails between Moseley and an executive in the company that won the bid, according to The Associated Press.

Last week, Air Force Adm. Kirkland H. Donald presented a report on the nuclear weapons incident to Gates, who had ordered the investigation. The incident took place last August when a nuclear-armed B-52 flew from Minot Air Force Base in North Dakota to Barksdale AFB in Louisiana. Another nuclear incident just recently discovered was the mistaken shipment of 4 nuclear fuses to Taiwan in the fall of 2006.

Gates is expected to brief reporters on the resignations later Thursday.

Gates also recently spoke at Air University at Maxwell AFB in Alabama describing the Air Force's sluggishness to step up its force readiness.

Sources said that the Air Force has drawn criticism for back-channel dealings to gain equipment on Capitol Hill that had been denied by Gates
[emphasis added].

The resignations were apparently orchestrated by Gates' office, with Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Mike Mullen this morning telling Moseley of his option either to resign or to be fired, and Deputy Defense Secretary Gordon England giving the same options to Wynne. England traveled to Dayton, Ohio, to deliver the message personally to Wynne...
 
Well... as the USAFs fleet of combat aircraft wear out & come tumbling out of t he sky (eg:F15) it's nice to know that Mr Gates is denying the Air Force the equipment it needs to continue in it's mandate.
 
geo said:
Well... as the USAFs fleet of combat aircraft wear out & come tumbling out of t he sky (eg:F15) it's nice to know that Mr Gates is denying the Air Force the equipment it needs to continue in it's mandate.

Wrong Geo.USAF combat aircraft procurement is hung up with the F-35 teething problems and the AF insistance on more $300m a copy raptors, a new manned bomber,and nuclear security failure's.More C-17's are needed at the sametime they are cutting the force and manning Army shortfalls in Iraq.I give Gates alot of credit for cracking heads and holding the top people accountable, something very rare in the US military.
 
T6

Does Congress bear some of the responsibility? They used to, and still may, be prone to funding pork-rich programs in certain districts as opposed to buying spare parts to keep the existing fleet flying. Whatever one reads about back channeling in this case, all the services have congressional liaison offices that lobby on the hill for pet programs. (pet is a poor word, but I can't think of a better one at this time.)

On the other hand, undermining or trying to get around direction from the executive branch is inexcusable. This may be what we see here.

One last thought: the USAF has lost a number of very senior officers for doing this over the last twenty or so years. Certainly they were much more prone to jump on their dorks while wearing logging boots then were the other services.
 
I dont blame Congress for this mess but the nuclear issue I think was the excuse to clean house. Gates has had problems with senior USAF leadership over Iraq/Afghanistan[not doing enough] and the F-22[USAF wanting more].The turf battle with the USAF vs the Army/USMC over ownership of the UAV fleet [the USAF lost that one].General McNabb the Vice Chief will take over as acting Chief of Staff and is favored to get the job.McNabb is not part of the fighter pilot mafia ,rather he is comes from AMC .

http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/issues/2008/June/Aviation.htm
 
tomahawk6:  Great link.  And what do F-35 problems mean for the rest of us?  Almost reminds one of the TFX:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/f-111-history.htm
http://www.usscoralsea.net/pages/f111.html

Mark
Ottawa
 
MarkOttawa said:
And what do F-35 problems mean for the rest of us? 

For the RAAF it meant having to buy F/A-18Fs as an interim measure.
 
CDN Aviator: Can you imagine such an "interim measure" from any Canadian government?

Mark
Ottawa
 
MarkOttawa said:
CDN Aviator: Can you imagine such an "interim measure" from any Canadian government?

Personaly speaking......No.

But then again i never thought i would see a C-17 with "CANADA" painted on it, so i guess "stranger things have happenned" .

On the subject of the USAF....

The pressures of 2 wars are certainly taking their toll. The problems with several high profile programs have not helped the USAF overall. The fiasco that surounded the KC-X program, the CSAR helo replacement program, the failiure to agree with the Army and Navy for the Airborne common sensor project and the F-22's less than stellar entry into service have all caused big political problems for the service. Add to all that the woes of the F-15 fleet, the return of Russian bombers, the delays with the F-35 and the new generation of Russian fighters, Congress forcing the service to buy more C-17s and the premature wearing down of aircrafts in service, Problems with the developement of a stand-off Jamming capability for the B-52 (since the impending retirement of the Navy's EA-6B Prowler will leave the USAF with no EA capability)...........

Mind you, the USN is not doing much better..........
 
The nuclear security issue will see a number of other general officers and colonels go into retirement.The Air Force has had competing interests in the past between the bomber community,tac air pilots and AMC types.Bombers and cargo aircraft mean less money for sexy fighters and with the fighter generals in charge fighters will be pushed to the head of the line.In fact the USAF has pressed their luck with Congress by getting their F-22's and then by complaining about no money for C-17's Congress "forces" the USAF to buy more cargo aircraft.Its a game and the USAF generals are very good at it - until the war pushed the Army/USMC to the head of the line.

Background:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-gates22apr22,1,3386295.story

He said he was particularly upset with the military's failure to get more unmanned spy planes into the air over the two war zones -- primarily an Air Force responsibility. Although the number of drones has nearly doubled in recent months, Gates has set up a task force to push for even more.

"We can do and we should do more to meet the needs of men and women fighting in the current conflicts while their outcome may still be in doubt," Gates said. "Our services are still not moving aggressively in wartime to provide resources needed now on the battlefield."

In a highly symbolic portion of his speech, Gates quoted late Air Force pilot and maverick reformer John Boyd, who for decades clashed with service brass over prized fighter programs that he deemed too complex and costly. Gates noted that Boyd championed some of the least expensive and most effective aircraft, including the F-16 fighter and the A-10 attack plane, over the objections of his superiors.

Boyd remains a highly controversial figure within the Air Force, where his theories are still debated. Yet Gates praised him as "a brilliant, eccentric and stubborn character" who should be emulated. Gates' reference to Boyd was seen as a rebuke to the Air Force leadership and its preference for the costly F-22.

"I was stunned," said Thomas P. Christie, a former top weapons tester at the Pentagon who was close to Boyd. "To go into the den of thieves, so to speak, and to make that presentation, I mean that's incredible."

 
The USAF and the Army also squabbled over the Joint Cargo Aircraft. with the USAF originally wanting a shortened C-130J and the Army a smaller, two-engine place.  C-27J eventually over C-295 after Herc was earlier dropped from the competition.
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/joint-cargo-aircraft-we-have-a-winner-03372/

Mark
Ottawa
 
"F-35: $110 million!!!"
http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/68471/post-721395.html#msg721395

Mark
Ottawa
 
Looks like quite a bit of rot:

Top Two Air Force Officials Ousted
Failures in Oversight Of Nuclear Arms Cited

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/05/AR2008060501908.html
...
Gates decided to remove Air Force Secretary Michael W. Wynne and the chief of staff, Gen. T. Michael "Buzz" Moseley, because "the focus of the Air Force leadership has drifted with respect to perhaps its most sensitive mission," he said yesterday, adding that he would recommend replacements for both positions to President Bush shortly.

The departures of Wynne and Moseley cap a disastrous period for the Air Force, one that has included a bomber wing inadvertently flying nuclear warheads over the continental United States, the mistaken and long-unnoticed transfer of secret nuclear-related materials to Taiwan, and a corrupt $50 million contract for a Thunderbirds air show that went to a company owned by a retired four-star general and a civilian friend of senior Air Force leaders.

Gates is the first defense secretary to fire both the military and civilian heads of a service at the same time, underscoring his willingness to shake up the Pentagon establishment to advance his priorities, officials said. Only a few months into his tenure, in March 2007, Gates forced Army Secretary Francis J. Harvey to resign over his handling of problems in care for wounded outpatient soldiers at Walter Reed Army Medical Center.

The recently completed Pentagon investigation into the Taiwan incident -- in which four Air Force ballistic missile fuses were mistakenly shipped to Taiwan from the Defense Logistics Agency in 2006 -- led Gates to realize that dramatic steps were needed to correct critical shortfalls in Air Force oversight of the nuclear arsenal. The classified materials were in Taiwan military control for about 17 months.

The investigation, led by Adm. Kirkland H. Donald, the Pentagon's top official for nuclear safety, also found a "gradual erosion" of nuclear standards, technical expertise and oversight over the past decade.

Speaking at a Pentagon news conference yesterday, Gates noted with some irritation that after the two highly publicized incidents in which the Air Force lost control over nuclear components, the call for a thorough investigation "was not initiated by the Air Force leadership, but required my intervention."

The Taiwan shipment "represents a significant failure to ensure the security of sensitive military components," Gates said. He added: "More troubling, it depicts a pattern of poor performance that was highlighted to us following last year's incident involving the improper [transfer] of nuclear weapons between Minot Air Force Base and Barksdale Air Force Base." In August, the service lost track of warheads for 36 hours when it unknowingly flew them between those bases, in North Dakota and Louisiana.

Not only did top officials fall short in those specific cases, Gates said, but "they failed to recognize systemic problems" or address them. He said a "substantial number" of Air Force generals and colonels also have been identified as "potentially subject to disciplinary measures [emphasis added]." 

The past year has seen friction between the Air Force and top Pentagon officials over matters including the service's role in the Iraq war and its preference for new, expensive F-22 fighter jets. The dispute over funding for the jets raised ire in the Bush administration because the Air Force lobbied for more jets than the White House was willing to officially request.

Senior Air Force officials have also seen their credibility slipping on Capitol Hill, where lawmakers have been challenging major acquisitions such as a tanker deal and the pursuit of advanced fighter jets. Recent revelations about inappropriate influence and command involvement in the Thunderbirds contract brought specific concerns to bear publicly...

More:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/06/washington/06military.html?ref=todayspaper
...
Mr. Gates has also expressed frustration about some Air Force actions on weapons procurement, budgets and execution of the mission in Iraq and Afghanistan, his aides said.

The Air Force has more than doubled the number of armed Predator and Reaper hunter-killer aircraft over Iraq and Afghanistan since early last year, but aides to Mr. Gates say he is still not satisfied with the number of surveillance aircraft in the war zone [emphasis added]...

Mark
Ottawa
 
Gates sends a message:

Gates picks non-fighter pilot to head the Air Force
Gen. Norton A. Schwartz has a background in transportation and cargo flights. His nomination is seen as a message that the Air Force must focus on ground war needs.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-schwartz10-2008jun10,0,4739484.story

LANGLEY AIR FORCE BASE, VA. — Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates took action Monday to dramatically reorient the leadership of the Air Force, calling for the nomination of the first non-fighter or bomber pilot to lead the service since its inception after World War II.

His recommendation that Gen. Norton A. Schwartz, who began his military career as a cargo pilot, be nominated by President Bush as Air Force chief of staff marks a significant shift in Air Force leadership.

Over time, the move could lead the service to give more emphasis to missions that support ground wars like those in Iraq and Afghanistan, such as cargo flights and in-air refueling, over more traditional roles like air dogfights.

Schwartz is head of U.S. Transportation Command, which coordinates the Pentagon's worldwide transportation operations and manages military logistics.

Last week, after receiving a classified report critical of the service's oversight of the U.S. nuclear arsenal, Gates fired the civilian and military heads of the Air Force.

In recent months, he and other Defense Department officials have been critical of Air Force leadership on a range of issues, including concerns that the service had not done enough to shift its spending priorities to unmanned reconnaissance drones and was lobbying too hard for advanced fighter jets...

...there is little doubt that Schwartz's nomination, expected shortly, will be seen as ushering in a new era. After Gen. T. Michael "Buzz" Moseley was fired as chief of staff last week, many had expected that Gen. John Corley, a fighter pilot and head of Air Combat Command, would replace him.

But senior defense officials said that Gates wanted to make a dramatic move to signal a clear break with the past. One official said Gates was looking for an Air Force chief who did not come with a fighter pilot's "call sign" nickname.

Officials said that in bypassing the "fighter mafia" for the chief of staff position, Gates is sending a message that the Air Force needs to focus more on Iraq and Afghanistan, where he has struggled to get the service to provide more unmanned reconnaissance drones...

Gates said he chose Schwartz because of his intelligence and attention to detail. As the new chief, Schwartz will be charged with improving nuclear oversight, modernizing the aging fleet of tankers and figuring out what kind of fighter planes to build...

...both senior and mid-level Air Force officers think that Moseley was ousted, at least in part, because of his aggressive support for purchasing additional F-22 fighter planes.

Some of Gates' advisors see the plane as expensive and of limited value in fighting unconventional wars like those in Iraq or Afghanistan. But many in the Air Force's fighter community think it is crucial because of the proliferation of sophisticated anti-aircraft systems in countries such as Iran and China.

The controversy surrounding Moseley's leadership has divided the Air Force, with some current and former officers lamenting his demise and fretting that his departure could spell the end of the F-22. Its production contract runs out next year.

On the other hand, an increasing number of Air Force officers have begun to argue for sacrificing the F-22, saying the fight has weakened the service in the eyes of the Pentagon's civilian leadership. To this group, the Joint Strike Fighter, a smaller and cheaper fighter under development, will provide adequate air superiority and allow the dispute to end
[emphasis added]...

Gates also said he would end further cuts in the size of the Air Force, which is in the middle of eliminating 40,000 positions. Halting the cuts would leave the Air Force with about 330,000 personnel, down from 356,000 in 2006...

Mark
Ottawa

 
From what I understand Gates will not make any major changes to F-22 procurement until the next Administration is in as he wants to leave options open for whomever takes office.  Perhaps he couldn't alter much at this late stage in the contract/administration anyway but he's stated that he'll let things role along, perhaps at a reduced level, until next year. (I'll try to dig up the ref. for his comments)

His statement and more info here:
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_generic.jsp?channel=aerospacedaily&id=news/F22020708.xml&headline=Gates%20To%20Keep%20F-22%20Line%20Open



edited to add link
 
MarkOttawa said:
CDN Aviator: Can you imagine such an "interim measure" from any Canadian government?

Mark
Ottawa

lol Canada doesn't have that many generals/ admirals to spare
 
Excerpts from a challenging article in Stratfor.com:
http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/geopolitical_weekly_u_s_air_force_and_next_war

...Gates put the issue succinctly when he recently said that “I have noticed too much of a tendency toward what might be called ‘next-war-itis’ — the propensity of much of the defense establishment to be in favor of what might be needed in a future conflict.” This is what the firings were about...

There is a neat alignment of the issues involved in the firings. Nuclear arms were the quintessential weapons of the Cold War, the last generation. Predators and similar unmanned aircraft are part of this generation’s warfare. The Air Force sees F-22s and other conventional technology as the key weapons of the next generation. The Air Force leadership, facing decades-long timelines in fielding new weapons systems, feels it must focus on the next war now. Gates, responsible for fighting this generation’s war, sees the Air Force as neglecting current requirements. He also views it as essentially having lost interest and expertise in the last generation’s weapons, which are still important — not to mention extremely dangerous...

There is a school of thought in the military that argues that we have now entered the fourth generation of warfare. The first generation of war, according to this theory, involved columns and lines of troops firing muzzle-loaded weapons in volleys. The second generation consisted of warfare involving indirect fire (artillery) and massed movement, as seen in World War I. Third-generation warfare comprised mobile warfare, focused on outmaneuvering the enemy, penetrating enemy lines and encircling them, as was done with armor during World War II. The first three generations of warfare involved large numbers of troops, equipment and logistics. Large territorial organizations — namely, nation-states — were required to carry them out.

Fourth-generation warfare is warfare carried out by nonstate actors using small, decentralized units and individuals to strike at enemy forces and, more important, create political support among the population. The classic example of fourth-generation warfare would be the intifadas carried out by Palestinians against Israel. They involved everything from rioters throwing rocks to kidnappings to suicide bombings. The Palestinians could not defeat the Israel Defense Forces (IDF), a classic third-generation force, in any conventional sense — but neither could the IDF vanquish the intifadas, since the battlefield was the Palestinians themselves...

The argument now is that nations are not the agents of wars but its victims. Wars will not be fought between nations, but between nations and subnational groups that are decentralized, sparse, dispersed and primarily conducting war to attack their target’s morale. The very size of the forces dispersed by a nation-state makes them vulnerable to subnational groups by providing a target-rich environment. Being sparse and politically capable, the insurgent groups blend into the population and are difficult to ferret out and defeat.

In such a war, the nation-state’s primary mission is to identify the enemy, separate him from the population and destroy him. It is critical to be surgical in attacking the enemy, since the enemy wins whenever an attack by the nation-state hits the noncombatant population, even if its own forces are destroyed — this is political warfare. Therefore, the key to success — if success is possible — is intelligence. It is necessary to know the enemy’s whereabouts, and strike him when he is not near the noncombatant population.

The Air Force and UAVs

In fourth-generation warfare, therefore, unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) are one of the keys to defeating the substate actor. They gather intelligence, wait until the target is not surrounded by noncombatants and strike suddenly and without warning. It is the quintessential warfare for a technologically advanced nation fighting a subnational insurgent group embedded in the population. It is not surprising that Gates, charged with prosecuting a fourth-generation war, is furious at the Air Force for focusing on fighter planes when what it needs are more and better UAVs...

...the Air Force...should argue that there is no such thing as fourth-generation warfare. There have always been guerrillas, assassins and other forms of politico-military operatives. With the invention of explosives, they have been able to kill more people than before, but there is nothing new in this. What is called fourth-generation warfare is simply a type of war faced by everyone from Alexander to Hitler. It is just resistance. This has not superseded third-generation warfare; it merely happens to be the type of warfare the United States has faced recently.

Wars between nation-states, such as World War I and World War II, are rare in the sense that the United States fought many more wars like the Huk rising in the Philippines or the Vietnam War in its guerrilla phase than it did world wars. Nevertheless, it was the two world wars that determined the future of the world and threatened fundamental U.S. interests. The United States can lose a dozen Vietnams or Iraqs and not have its interests harmed. But losing a war with a nation-state could be catastrophic.

The Next War vs. the War That Matters

The response to Gates, therefore, is that the Air Force is not preparing for the next war. It is preparing for the war that really matters rather than focusing on an insurgency that ultimately cannot threaten fundamental U.S. interests. Gates, of course, would answer that the Air Force is cavalier with the lives of troops who are fighting the current war as it prepares to fight some notional war. The Air Force would counter that the notional war it is preparing to fight could decide the survival of the United States, while the war being fought by Gates won’t. At this point, the argument would deadlock, and the president and Congress would decide where to place their bets.

But the argument is not quite over at this point. The Air Force’s point about preparing for the decisive wars is, in our mind, well-taken. It is hard for us to accept the idea that the nation-state is helpless in front of determined subnational groups. More important, it is hard for us to accept the idea that international warfare is at an end. There have been long periods in the past of relative tranquility between nation-states — such as, for example, the period between the fall of Napoleon and World War I. Wars between nations were sparse, and the European powers focused on fourth-generational resistance in their colonies. But when war came in 1914, it came with a vengeance.

Our question regards the weapons the Air Force wants to procure. It wants to build the F-22 fighter at enormous cost, which is designed to penetrate enemy airspace, defeat enemy fighter aircraft and deliver ordnance with precision to a particular point on the map. Why would one use a manned aircraft for that mission? The evolution of cruise missiles with greater range and speed permits the delivery of the same ordnance to the same target without having a pilot in the cockpit. Indeed, cruise missiles can engage in evasive maneuvers at g-forces that would kill a pilot. And cruise missiles exist that could serve as unmanned aircraft, flying to the target, releasing submunitions and returning home. The combination of space-based reconnaissance and the unmanned cruise missile — in particular, next-generation systems able to move at hypersonic speeds (in excess of five times the speed of sound) — would appear a much more efficient and effective solution to the problem of the next generation of warfare.

We could argue that both Gates and the Air Force are missing the point. Gates is right that the Air Force should focus on unmanned aircraft; technology has simply moved beyond the piloted aircraft as a model. But this does not mean the Air Force should not be preparing for the next war. Just as the military should have been preparing for the U.S.-jihadist war while also waging the Cold War, so too, the military should be preparing for the next conflict while fighting this war. For a country that spends as much time in wars as the United States (about 17 percent of the 20th century in major wars, almost all of the 21st century), Gates’ wish to focus so narrowly on this war seems reckless.

At the same time, building a new and fiendishly expensive version of the last generation’s weapons does not necessarily constitute preparing for the next war. The Air Force was built around the piloted combat aircraft. The Navy was built around sailing ships. Those who flew and those who sailed were necessary and courageous. But sailing ships don’t fit into the modern fleet, and it is not clear to us that manned aircraft will fit into high-intensity peer conflict in the future.

We do not agree that preparing for the next war is pathological. We should always be fighting this war and preparing for the next. But we don’t believe the Air Force is preparing for the next war. There will be wars between nations, fought with all the chips on the table. Gates is right that the Air Force should focus on unmanned aircraft. But not because of this war alone.
...
This report may be forwarded or republished on your website with attribution to www.stratfor.com

Mark
Ottawa
 
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