USS John S McCain captain relieved
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Well, it may surprise many, but in the RCN, we are not paid to shoot hand held weapons. We are paid to fire big guns, big torpedoes and big missiles. The amount of time dedicated to small arms training before force protection became a thing was a few hours of refresher training before going to the range for the annual qualification shoot - which in those days, you could hardly fail if you were capable of hitting the side of a barn with a shotgun at 5 paces. 
The most used small arm on a warship is the gunline gun, used to pass the light messenger in a RAS.
The American Naval Officer is a weird animal: On one of their own ship, with few or only one foreign officer embedded for a while, they are as happy and humourous as the next guy. But put them in a situation where they interact with "allies" or foreign navies in a group setting and they are so serious you would believe that any mistake in their every word is going to affect the coming of the end of the world, even if its just deciding on which item to pick from the lunch menu.
The most used small arm on a warship is the gunline gun, used to pass the light messenger in a RAS.
The American Naval Officer is a weird animal: On one of their own ship, with few or only one foreign officer embedded for a while, they are as happy and humourous as the next guy. But put them in a situation where they interact with "allies" or foreign navies in a group setting and they are so serious you would believe that any mistake in their every word is going to affect the coming of the end of the world, even if its just deciding on which item to pick from the lunch menu.
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Navy is heavy on the whole seamanship business... light on the whole warfighting business.#bufferfail or just the whole darn Navy?
If we wanted Merchant Mariners, we'd ask the CCG to do it for us
Well, it may surprise many, but in the RCN, we are not paid to shoot hand held weapons. We are paid to fire big guns, big torpedoes and big missiles. The amount of time dedicated to small arms training before force protection became a thing was a few hours of refresher training before going to the range for the annual qualification shoot - which in those days, you could hardly fail if you were capable of hitting the side of a barn with a shotgun at 5 paces.
The most used small arm on a warship is the gunline gun, used to pass the light messenger in a RAS.
Nobody expects the average Seaman to be John Wick with a firearm. The department responsible for their care and use though... they absolutely should be competent and capable.
Your tune would change if you had an IRGC-N gunboat within a baseballs throw of your bridge wing.
Funny how the Army has big guns in the Artillery but they still do proper weapons training.
The RCN probably would be well served to create their own small unit of men-at-arms and amalgamate the hodge-podge collection of pseudo-organizations it currently has.
FDU, NTOG, NST, etc....
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