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Nemo888 said:w. If only we would just shut up.
Pesky lot ain't we?
Nemo888 said:w. If only we would just shut up.
Nemo888 said:I was a medic in when the NVC was introduced. It was brought in for one reason only. To save money. The costs looking after vets under the old system were going to exceed the cost of prosecuting the entire war. This was unacceptable to the bean counters who luckily have no conscience or morals. The program has been incredibly successful in their view. If only we would just shut up.
Because if it's in the courts, the gov't doesn't have to pay the extra money needed for the solutions until the courts say they do. So while the Info-machine talks about how much wounded vets are respected (or at least respected by the private sector, anyway), the government lawyers come up with all sorts of arguments why the system should stay the way it is - recent case in pointTeager said:So why not do it right the first time around instead of taking the gamble risk every time?
As someone waaaaaaay smarter than me has said here, support for the Canadian military across Canada is a mile wide and an inch deep - if there were a lot of votes to get this way, it would happen.Teager said:Also it can take away votes for that government party that is in charge when they refuse to make change. If they did make good changes it could also work in their favour for more votes.
MJP said:I feel it was the Legion that really threw us under the bus as they fully supported and pushed it the NVC. It probably would not have been changed so drastically if they hadn't of supported it, considering again the bad optics that would play out in the media of a government trying to screw around with vets............ The Legion can go screw themselves. I hope they fade away into the night...
Good point - shame it seems to have to go to litigation to reinforce problems with the NVC (as opposed to them who says it's their great idea saying, "maybe it needs some tweaking").Infanteer said:1. Middle ground needs to be found. The NVC added a lot of benefits on to what was simply a monthly payout and as my hombre the 48th has pointed out, that wasn't always the greatest. Just as many perceive the NVC as a way for the "system" to wash its hands of an injured vet, the old "here's your $376 a month, now go away please" wasn't much better. Some of the benefits are really useful and are put in place for good reason and there needs to be a middle ground.
Sadly, they seem to have a lot of traction re: being seen as "the voice of the vet".Infanteer said:2. I think the Legion wheels vets in on bridge night to validate itself. It's no different than a local Rotary club but it uses a veneer of (mostly nonexistent) service and fancy medals to position itself on a different level. They certainly don't speak for me either.
Infanteer said:I think the Legion wheels vets in on bridge night to validate itself. It's no different than a local Rotary club but it uses a veneer of (mostly nonexistent) service and fancy medals to position itself on a different level. They certainly don't speak for me either.
The country's veterans ombudsman is disappointed the federal government has not extended legal assistance to ex-soldiers who find themselves battling for benefits in front of the Federal Court.
Guy Parent, as part of his review of the Veterans Review and Appeal Board, recommended that Ottawa allow lawyers in the pension advocates branch to continue to represent former members whose cases end up in the courts.
The suggestion was made as part of a review of the appeal board that was conducted in the spring of 2012.
Almost three years on, Parent says the Conservative government has made good progress implementing some of his other recommendations, but the important question of legal representation remains outstanding.
In a letter to the ombudsman before he was replaced, former veterans affairs minister Julian Fantino said resources are better spent at the earlier stages of appeal in order to "get the right decisions at the earliest possible time."
But Parent says the federally appointed lawyers at the pension advocate branch know the particulars of individual cases and it doesn't make sense to see them drop out of the process just as the veteran reaches the most complicated legal ground ....