Victoria is facing a public-safety crisis

[OldSolduer]

Maybe feeling(s)?

Don’t push it

 

[Halifax Tar]

Maybe feeling(s)?

I'm pretty sure when one becomes an RSM feelings are returned to the QM for disposal

@OldSolduer ?

 

[mariomike]

Looks like Victoria may not be so bad. Didn't make it into the Top Ten.

The study, compiled by experts with money.ca, determined the top 10 most dangerous and safest cities in Canada by analyzing the Canadian Crime Index and looking at rates of specific crimes per 100,000 people.

Revealed – the top 10 safest Canadian cities to live in

Which cities see the lowest crime rates?

www.insurancebusinessmag.com

Here are the top 10 most dangerous cities in Canada, according to the study:

1. Lethbridge, Alberta (1,190 offences per 100,000)
2. Regina, Saskatchewan (1,113.5 offences per 100,000)
3. Moncton, New Brunswick (1,085.3 offences per 100,000)
4. Saskatoon, Saskatchewan (1,043.1 offences per 100,000)
5. Winnipeg, Manitoba (1,040.7 offences per 100,000 )
6. Kelowna, BC (1,007 offences per 100,000)
7. Abbotsford-Mission, BC (818.4 offences per 100,000)
8. Greater Sudbury, Ontario (779 offences per 100,000)
9. Thunder Bay, Ontario (775.2 offences per 100,000)
10. Edmonton, Alberta (757.9 offences per 100,000)

Here are the top 10 safest cities in Canada, according to the study:

1. Toronto, Ontario (286.9 offences per 100,000 people)
2. Quebec City, Quebec (301 offences per 100,000 people)
3. Ottawa-Gatineau, Quebec (318.8 offences per 100,000 people)
4. Sherbrooke, Quebec (327.4 offences per 100,000 people)
5. Ottawa-Gatineau, Ontario (333.9 offences per 100,000 people)
6. Montreal, Quebec (356.7 offences per 100,000 people)
7. Barrie, Ontario (356.7 offences per 100,000 people)
8. Trois-Rivières, Quebec (366.2 offences per 100,000 people)
9. Saguenay, Quebec (396.3 offences per 100,000 people)
10. Hamilton, Ontario (420.6 offences per 100,000 people)

 

[brihard]

Looks like Victoria may not be so bad. Didn't make it into the Top Ten.

Revealed – the top 10 safest Canadian cities to live in

Which cities see the lowest crime rates?

www.insurancebusinessmag.com

Here are the top 10 most dangerous cities in Canada, according to the study:

1. Lethbridge, Alberta (1,190 offences per 100,000)
2. Regina, Saskatchewan (1,113.5 offences per 100,000)
3. Moncton, New Brunswick (1,085.3 offences per 100,000)
4. Saskatoon, Saskatchewan (1,043.1 offences per 100,000)
5. Winnipeg, Manitoba (1,040.7 offences per 100,000 )
6. Kelowna, BC (1,007 offences per 100,000)
7. Abbotsford-Mission, BC (818.4 offences per 100,000)
8. Greater Sudbury, Ontario (779 offences per 100,000)
9. Thunder Bay, Ontario (775.2 offences per 100,000)
10. Edmonton, Alberta (757.9 offences per 100,000)

Here are the top 10 safest cities in Canada, according to the study:

1. Toronto, Ontario (286.9 offences per 100,000 people)
2. Quebec City, Quebec (301 offences per 100,000 people)
3. Ottawa-Gatineau, Quebec (318.8 offences per 100,000 people)
4. Sherbrooke, Quebec (327.4 offences per 100,000 people)
5. Ottawa-Gatineau, Ontario (333.9 offences per 100,000 people)
6. Montreal, Quebec (356.7 offences per 100,000 people)
7. Barrie, Ontario (356.7 offences per 100,000 people)
8. Trois-Rivières, Quebec (366.2 offences per 100,000 people)
9. Saguenay, Quebec (396.3 offences per 100,000 people)
10. Hamilton, Ontario (420.6 offences per 100,000 people)

Really when you talk about dangerous cities, you’re probably talking about dangerous neighbourhoods. Aggregating such stats to entire cities really skews analysis that probably should be looking at urban cores, or certain troubled neighbourhoods or districts.

You can go three blocks in some parts of some citizens and have a radical different vibe between point A and point B.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Really when you talk about dangerous cities, you’re probably talking about dangerous neighbourhoods. Aggregating such stats to entire cities really skews analysis that probably should be looking at urban cores, or certain troubled neighbourhoods or districts.

You can go three blocks in some parts of some citizens and have a radical different vibe between point A and point B.

The entertainment district in downtown Victoria is the worst for various types of violence because: entertainment

Why crime severity score is Victoria 148, Oak Bay 29. Hint: partying​

Victoria police chief says workload is not being shared fairly. Regional force makes sense, says criminology professor.

Why crime severity score is Victoria 148, Oak Bay 29. Hint: partying

Victoria police chief says workload is not being shared fairly. Regional force makes sense, says criminology professor.

www.timescolonist.com

 

[OldSolduer]

You can go three blocks in some parts of some citizens and have a radical different vibe between point A and point B.

Behind a number of chain grocery stores here there is a Manitoba Housing Project. They are beacons for trouble. Not just in the core either - in the so called "safer" sections.

 

[brihard]

The entertainment district in downtown Victoria is the worst for various types of violence because: entertainment

Why crime severity score is Victoria 148, Oak Bay 29. Hint: partying​

Victoria police chief says workload is not being shared fairly. Regional force makes sense, says criminology professor.

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Why crime severity score is Victoria 148, Oak Bay 29. Hint: partying

Victoria police chief says workload is not being shared fairly. Regional force makes sense, says criminology professor.

www.timescolonist.com

Yup, bar/entertainment districts always get more than their fair share of stupidity. Alcohol, drugs, and testosterone poisoning…

 

[mariomike]

Yup, bar/entertainment districts always get more than their fair share of stupidity. Alcohol, drugs, and testosterone poisoning…

Well said.

And, sometimes, it's visitors from out of town...

Victoria is actually ranked around the middle.

1. Toronto – 286.9
2. Quebec, QC – 301
3. Ottawa-Gatineau, QC – 318.8
4. Sherbrooke, QC – 327.4
5. Ottawa-Gatineau – 333.9
6. Montreal – 356.7
7. Barrie, ON – 356.7
8. Trois-Rivières, QC – 366.2
9. Saguenay, QU – 396.3
10. Hamilton – 420.6
11. Saint John, NB – 423.4
12. Halifax, NS – 447.6
13. Belleville, ON – 450.8
14. Peterborough, ON – 496.2
15. Guelph – 500.6
16. St. Catharines-Niagara – 529.5
17. Kingston, ON – 557.4
18. Calgary, AB – 573.3
19. Kitchener-Cambridge-Waterloo – 596.2
20. Victoria, BC – 604.9
21. Brantford, ON – 613.5
22. St. John’s, NL – 614.9
23. Windsor – 644.5
24. Vancouver, BC – 657.8
25. London – 679.7
26. Edmonton, AB – 757.9
27. Thunder Bay, ON – 775.2
28. Greater Sudbury, ON – 779
29. Abbotsford-Mission, BC – 818.4
30. Kelowna, BC – 1,007
31. Winnipeg, MB – 1,040
32. Saskatoon, SK – 1,043.1
33. Moncton, NB – 1,085.3
34. Regina, SK – 1,113.5
35. Lethbridge, AB – 1,190

 

[brihard]

Well said.

And, sometimes, it's visitors from out of town...

Victoria is actually ranked around the middle.

1. Toronto – 286.9
2. Quebec, QC – 301
3. Ottawa-Gatineau, QC – 318.8
4. Sherbrooke, QC – 327.4
5. Ottawa-Gatineau – 333.9
6. Montreal – 356.7
7. Barrie, ON – 356.7
8. Trois-Rivières, QC – 366.2
9. Saguenay, QU – 396.3
10. Hamilton – 420.6
11. Saint John, NB – 423.4
12. Halifax, NS – 447.6
13. Belleville, ON – 450.8
14. Peterborough, ON – 496.2
15. Guelph – 500.6
16. St. Catharines-Niagara – 529.5
17. Kingston, ON – 557.4
18. Calgary, AB – 573.3
19. Kitchener-Cambridge-Waterloo – 596.2
20. Victoria, BC – 604.9
21. Brantford, ON – 613.5
22. St. John’s, NL – 614.9
23. Windsor – 644.5
24. Vancouver, BC – 657.8
25. London – 679.7
26. Edmonton, AB – 757.9
27. Thunder Bay, ON – 775.2
28. Greater Sudbury, ON – 779
29. Abbotsford-Mission, BC – 818.4
30. Kelowna, BC – 1,007
31. Winnipeg, MB – 1,040
32. Saskatoon, SK – 1,043.1
33. Moncton, NB – 1,085.3
34. Regina, SK – 1,113.5
35. Lethbridge, AB – 1,190

What do those figures represent? You’ve given us no context.

 

[mariomike]

What do those figures represent? You’ve given us no context.

Just yesterday's news. You would be able to interpret the data for readers.

Jan 3, 2024

Kitchener makes list of safest cities in Canada

The list was created with the intent to inform homeowners of safe cities to live in. The list separates crimes into categories such as breaking and entering or impaired driving. It was created by people working for money.ca.

kitchener.citynews.ca

Ottawa-Gatineau ranked Canada’s third safest place to live in new ranking

Some call it the city fun forgot, but it seems the nation’s capital is a great place to live for those looking for a sense of safety. According to new data compiled by Money.ca, the National Capital Region is the third safest place to live in all of Canada. Money.ca says it used data from […]

ottawa.citynews.ca

Revealed – the top 10 safest Canadian cities to live in

Which cities see the lowest crime rates?

www.insurancebusinessmag.com

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It’s a dangerous world out there, but despite the rise in gunplay and violent crime in Hamilton, the city ranked among the safest big cities in Canada according to the results of a recent study

www.inthehammer.com

Windsor trails Canadian large cities on crime safety ranking

Money.ca calculated the number of crimes per 100,000 residents using Canadian Crime Index data to generate a ranked list of safest cities.

windsorstar.com

Sudbury places low on list of safest Canadian cities

Nickel City in bottom 10 of 35 urban centres, according to analysis of crime stats

www.thesudburystar.com

What are Canada's safest cities to live in?

Incidences of crime can significantly affect markets’ housing values and appeal, survey suggests

www.mpamag.com

etc...

 

[daftandbarmy]

Yup, bar/entertainment districts always get more than their fair share of stupidity. Alcohol, drugs, and testosterone poisoning…

They get more than their fair share of revenue too. Victoria doesn’t get much sympathy from other muni’s in the region as they rake in the bucks from nightlife and cruise ship/ other tourist trade.

 

[brihard]

Just yestersay's news. You would be able to interpret the data for readers.

Jan 3, 2024

Kitchener makes list of safest cities in Canada

The list was created with the intent to inform homeowners of safe cities to live in. The list separates crimes into categories such as breaking and entering or impaired driving. It was created by people working for money.ca.

kitchener.citynews.ca

Revealed – the top 10 safest Canadian cities to live in

Which cities see the lowest crime rates?

www.insurancebusinessmag.com

- INthehammer | Local Online News

It’s a dangerous world out there, but despite the rise in gunplay and violent crime in Hamilton, the city ranked among the safest big cities in Canada according to the results of a recent study

www.inthehammer.com

Sudbury places low on list of safest Canadian cities

Nickel City in bottom 10 of 35 urban centres, according to analysis of crime stats

www.thesudburystar.com

Windsor trails Canadian large cities on crime safety ranking

Money.ca calculated the number of crimes per 100,000 residents using Canadian Crime Index data to generate a ranked list of safest cities.

windsorstar.com

etc...

I’m trying to make sense of which statistic this purports to be and I can’t. It doesn’t match the Crime Severity Index, but it’s WAY too low to be a total criminal incidents per 100k it may be using a subset of certain offences, but that’s not clear.

Anyway, coarse crime stats kinda suck because the aggregate to Census Metropolitan Area. They don’t tell you much save for allowing for following broad trends over time and chucking political shit. Meaningful, useful crime data are much more local than that.

 

[mariomike]

They get more than their fair share of revenue too. Victoria doesn’t get much sympathy from other muni’s in the region as they rake in the bucks from nightlife and cruise ship/ other tourist trade.

How does provincial funding work in B.C.?

Is municipal funding based only on the census population, or its commuter population in town for work, business, pleasure, or whatever?

If not, unlike the so-called Regional "bedroom communities", there will always be more people requiring service than the "muni" has been funded for by the province.

 

[GR66]

Really when you talk about dangerous cities, you’re probably talking about dangerous neighbourhoods. Aggregating such stats to entire cities really skews analysis that probably should be looking at urban cores, or certain troubled neighbourhoods or districts.

You can go three blocks in some parts of some citizens and have a radical different vibe between point A and point B.

100%. Which Toronto are you talking about?

This one:

Or this one:

 

[Good2Golf]

I’m trying to make sense of which statistic this purports to be and I can’t. It doesn’t match the Crime Severity Index, but it’s WAY too low to be a total criminal incidents per 100k it may be using a subset of certain offences, but that’s not clear.

Anyway, coarse crime stats kinda suck because the aggregate to Census Metropolitan Area. They don’t tell you much save for allowing for following broad trends over time and chucking political shit. Meaningful, useful crime data are much more local than that.

Well it certainly can’t be raccoons per dumpster…

 

[brihard]

Well it certainly can’t be raccoons per dumpster…

We don’t need to turn this into a Military Police thread.

 

[Halifax Tar]

We don’t need to turn this into a Military Police thread.

@brihard

 

[OldSolduer]

We don’t need to turn this into a Military Police thread.

 

[medicineman]

The entertainment district in downtown Victoria is the worst for various types of violence because: entertainment

Why crime severity score is Victoria 148, Oak Bay 29. Hint: partying​

Victoria police chief says workload is not being shared fairly. Regional force makes sense, says criminology professor.

View attachment 82248

Why crime severity score is Victoria 148, Oak Bay 29. Hint: partying

Victoria police chief says workload is not being shared fairly. Regional force makes sense, says criminology professor.

www.timescolonist.com

Well, some of the entertainment stumbles/waddles/crawls/vomits down the street, falling into other stumblers/waddlers/crawlers/vomiters, kicking off more unsanctioned MMA/punchee punch or stabbee stab, leading to more entertainment for those not sober enough to wander/stumble/crawl/fall away...and the circle of life continues.

 

[RangerRay]

Not a story about Victoria, but this is an interesting article on how while the crime rates may be down in North American cities, disorder is a significant problem that is driving perceptions of high crime.

It's Time to Talk About America's Disorder Problem

On disorder, and why it matters

thecausalfallacy.com