Well it seems I have myself backed into a corner. Firstly, lets all remind ourselves of the initial question posed on this thread and my initial answer,
The_Green_Basterd said:
I've seen this request be shortly entertained, if the person was able to get a letter from the CF stating that the prohibition holds them back from being employed. Note, the CF WILL NOT provide this letter.
Even if the prohibition is lifted, it does not mean you will be granted the required reliability status.
I clearly state that he would be able to apply and at the same time wouldn't necessarily be successful. That reply was specifically directed to his ability to
apply. I have read comments from different posters commenting on eligibility to get in based on the what the original poster disclosed as their crime. Unfortunately, some of these comments are irrelevant. If you do not have an outstanding legal obligation, your application will be accepted for processing and processed up to the point of reviewing your criminal record to grant Reliability Status. What happens upon review of that is not for ANY of us to say as their are so many factors and two applicants with the exact same criminal record could have different results because of their attitude towards the crime and the time and distance from the crime. The final determination will be that of CO of the recruiting centre if adverse information is discovered during the reliability check.
I answered the OPs question about the weapons ban to the best of my ability, and all my subsequent posts after the above quoted statement were meant at discouraging him from listening to anyone else comments regarding his likelyhood of being a successful applicant, as he did not ask that, he asked'
jsine said:
I was just wondering if anyone else has had this problem and did get it lifted for employment with the military.
This brings me to my second point, I have seen lots of people claim to work or have worked in the recruiting system. This will probably start a fire storm and I apologies to any colleagues and friends I offend, but working as a support worker at a CFRC or as a Reserve Unit Recruiter may qualify you to be considered a part of the recruiting system but, in my opinion, not to the point where you have something to contribute to this topic that is that is above and beyond the value that any member or non member could provide. Stating a party line such as, "Hiring is extremely competitive and we only accept the best," is not insightful, new, limited to the CF or knowledge gained only through your expertise within the CF recruiting system. Only those that have received the formal Recruiter, File Manger, MCC, PSO or CFRC CO courses and completed the required OJT training should, in my opinion, be stating that the work or have worked within the recruiting system when commenting on parts of the recruiting process done only at a CFRC.
As for commenting on the left and right of arcs on the granting Reliability status, only those that have actually processed/ handled to completion an ERC or sat on a Reliability Board could be speaking to the left and right of arcs, based on their personal experience, on what criminal record and credit hits they have seen and what passed and didn't pass for reliable.
The only thing I would tell an applicant is, if you have any legal obligations, you can't apply. If you have criminal convictions in the past, your taking a chance, but isn't any applicant?
Now, talking about a general weapons ban, not specific to the OP. If you had waited out a 10 year weapons ban, 10 years has passed. IOT get it, you probably were convicted of a crime, and with court delays, this was likely 1-2 years prior to the ban. Therefore, its been 12 years since you commeted. Depending on your age when you committed the crime, that could be a big chunk of your life. Depending on the specifics of the crime relating to the type of weapon and degree of use (1 hit with a baseball bat v/ 40 hits with a baseball bat), which you will have to disclose in order to continue processing, it could have an impact on the perceived severity of the crime.
In this thread, the OP did not disclose his age, age during the offence, specifics, or the time elapsed since the event before many comments were already made. Those are a lot of unknowns that could have a large impact on if the person will be successful or unsuccessful.
I have personally seen 2 year, 10 year and 99 year weapons prohibitions. What happened to each and every applicant is something I can't discuss, however, I can say that to all the people that are commenting, yet have not witnessed the outcome of those applications, It leaves me to believe your comments are not based on facts but generalizations and assumptions