When cadpat goes too far... (glowsticks)

[chrisf]

Ok, so this may be a silly rant, but has anyone else been issued glowsticks in cadpat packaging? (Actually, it's probably marpat, but that's not the point).

I was issued several bags of glowsticks to restock my radio detachment the other day, 1 bag red, 2 bags green, all manufactured by cyalume, and there they were, all packaged in cadpat...

Imagine the normal cyalume packaging, now instead of the green/red/blue/whatever colour the glowstick is, replace it with cadpat... makes it rather hard to tell what colour stick is inside... admitedly, it's written on the packaging, and if you lift up the flap on the back of  the package, it's still coloured green/red/blue/whatever, but still... do we really need to cam our glow sticks?

 

[MikeL]

Never seen 'em. In BN an overseas all we had was the plain white/black packages.

 

[chrisf]

I'll take pictures...

They came packed in the usual plastic bag of 10, with NSN stickers on the bag, and an NSN stamped on each glow stick.

 

[OldSolduer]

I really need to see this and if this is in fact CADPAT.

Next thing will be CADPAT socks and underwear..... :blotto:

 

[Sig_Des]

I think the cadpat thing is going a little too far. People buying cadpat fleece tuques.

cadpat boots... glad they decided against the cadpat t-shirts, at least.

 

[hugh19]

I have seen cadpat t shirts in stores though. LOLOL

 

[Greymatters]

Sounds like the idea there is that if the wrapper is dropped in the field, and is missed during cleanup, it will harder for the enemy to spot.

Of course, if it weren't camouflaged it would be a lot easier to see and pick up in the first place...

 

[ajp]

I suspect the cadpat is a manufacturers choice for marketing, I bet they sell them somewhere in that pack.  I never did understand camoflaged flashlights, knives and pens (for example).  U lose them all together if you drop them at night.  Again I think the LCF (Look Cool Factor) wins over practicality.  And on the topicic of cadpat underwear - FLEECE is supposed to be worn Under not Over a Shirt.  How many of us have epaulettes on our underwear.  (just a sore point with me).

 

[OldSolduer]

Acutally I believe that the fleece is supposed to be worn under the jacket/parka and the windpants. I think (Someone correct me....Tyrannosaurus CSM here) that the cbt shirt and pants are stowed during winter ops and should not be worn in conjunction with fleece. I've never seen that happen.
Dress regs are like doctrine: Written and rarely followed! (Except for dress regs for DEU)

 

[chrisf]

Wearing the combat shirt as a layer between the fleece and the goretex jacket would be contrary to good sense... the cotton in the combat shirt would trap moisture, negating the breathable properties of the goretex jacket and the warm when wet properties of the fleece...

But, back to glow sticks...

The first three are the glow sticks I was talking about, and for comparison, I included a "regular" cyalume glow stick, an Northern Lights glow stick, and an Ameriglow glow stick, all issued at one time or another.

The NSNs on the the cadpat glow sticks are the same as the "regular" cyalume glow stick, and the ameriglow glow stick. There was no NSN on the Northern lights glow stick. (Note, the NSN visible on the cadpat glow stick on the top is red, not green)

 

[Rodahn]

How many of us have epaulettes on our underwear.  (just a sore point with me).

Because you have epaulettes on your underwear????

I would agree with your suspicion that the "cadpat" is simply a marketing ploy however.

 

[PAT-Platoon]

And on the topicic of cadpat underwear - FLEECE is supposed to be worn Under not Over a Shirt.  How many of us have epaulettes on our underwear.  (just a sore point with me).

Personally, from a winter warfare perspective its smarter to wear the fleece on the outside. This makes donning and doffing easier and faster and thus if you are overheating it is easier to cool down (especially considering fleece has armpit zippers, as well as its main zipper). Just my two cents from my winter warfare instructors...

-C/D

 

[Eye In The Sky]

Personally, from a winter warfare perspective its smarter to wear the fleece on the outside. This makes donning and doffing easier and faster and thus if you are overheating it is easier to cool down (especially considering fleece has armpit zippers, as well as its main zipper). Just my two cents from my winter warfare instructors...

-C/D

Question.  Have you ever done a winter ex?  That is...do you have any practical experience?  Just curious after taking a look at your profile.

 

[TheHead]

Acutally I believe that the fleece is supposed to be worn under the jacket/parka and the windpants. I think (Someone correct me....Tyrannosaurus CSM here) that the cbt shirt and pants are stowed during winter ops and should not be worn in conjunction with fleece. I've never seen that happen.
Dress regs are like doctrine: Written and rarely followed! (Except for dress regs for DEU)

Correct, t-shirts and Combat shirts/pants were not suggested when I did my Winter Warfare courses and when I did my stints up to the Arctic.  When you sweat these items will soak up water and when you slow down you turn you into a green, meat popsicle.