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Who needs sailors anyway?

1,000kg payload.
2,000 mile rage.
60m operational diving depth.
Capable of fully autonomous operation and navigation.

 
You may find this recent "The Warzone" article of interest: UK Sacrifices Its Future Destroyer As Part Of Massive Bet On Drones Across Its Forces

According to "The War Zone" the RN is considering a number of different warships to procure instead of an intended Type-83 Destroyer procurement, these being:
(a)Type-91 - an uncrewed missile platform, serving as a 'floating magazine'
(b)Type-92 - an uncrewed "sense platform" with primary ASW tasking
(c)Type-93 - extra large uncrewed underwater vessel, intended as an adjunct to crewed hunter killer submarines. They are to carry both sensors and ASW weapons
(d)Type-94 - another uncrewed sense platform, optimized for air defense missions
 

"The Sea Baby, a strike boat built and operated by Ukraine’s Security Service, or SBU, can now carry six to eight FPV drones in side compartments that open during an attack, alongside thermobaric Shmel rockets"

"Ukrainian officials count on the autonomous vessels’ ability to move closer toward Russian military positions than land-based launchers could, with the SBU assuming a range of 930 miles (1,500 kilometers) on a 4,400-pound (2,000-kilogram) payload. Some of the drones in the cargo hold are guided by fiber-optic cable, leaving them immune to the radio jamming that downs ordinary FPVs, according to Forbes.

"Ukraine has turned nearly everything it fields into an FPV launcher. Sea drones carrying fiber-optic FPVs struck the Russian ports of Tuapse and Novorossiysk in September. Several companies have rigged ground robots to fire the same drones, and both sides have flown balloons carrying them."
 
You may find this recent "The Warzone" article of interest: UK Sacrifices Its Future Destroyer As Part Of Massive Bet On Drones Across Its Forces

According to "The War Zone" the RN is considering a number of different warships to procure instead of an intended Type-83 Destroyer procurement, these being:
(a)Type-91 - an uncrewed missile platform, serving as a 'floating magazine'
(b)Type-92 - an uncrewed "sense platform" with primary ASW tasking
(c)Type-93 - extra large uncrewed underwater vessel, intended as an adjunct to crewed hunter killer submarines. They are to carry both sensors and ASW weapons
(d)Type-94 - another uncrewed sense platform, optimized for air defense missions
I should qualify this by saying that a 'crewed' vessel, currently generically referred to as "common crewed vessel' (or CCV) is being referred to as being the command ship that accompanys these uncrewed vessels. ... Having typed that, I get the impression this is all a bit fuzzy and tentative.
 

9 decisions on the way to a hybrid fleet.

Which ones would you make?
 
Related

Pentagon struggles with 12 year development cycles


UK scraps exquisite legacy systems in favour of "good-enuff" mass

 
Seahawk going to sea with Theodore Roosevelt Carrier Strike Group as a contributing member of the force.


"a 142-ton trimaran fueled with 14,000 gallons of diesel to run for months without a human touching it"

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Leidos is also responsible for the sister ship, the Sea Hunter, the Ghost Fleet OUSVs 1 (Riley Claire/Nomad), 2 (Ranger) and 4 (Mariner) as well as these things.


"There are exactly two of these American attack drone boats on Earth, and Leidos built them to vanish into a crowd, a crewless 37-foot hull any boatyard can stamp out ten a month, a swarm no missile can stop"
 
I think the north Atlantic is going to play havoc with many of these drone system. I want to see how they maintain a persistent presence and respond to a SAR call.
 
I think the north Atlantic is going to play havoc with many of these drone system. I want to see how they maintain a persistent presence and respond to a SAR call.

HII seems to doubling down on the bet


As is the USCG


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I believe the bet is that lots of cheap platforms with overlapping fields means that individual failures are no longer as critical.
 




A lot of interest

 
Saronic in the water - 16m USV


"Mirage is built to extend the reach and capability of manned and unmanned teams across a range of maritime operations. With a top speed of 35+ knots, a range exceeding 2,500 nautical miles, and a payload capacity of 3,500 pounds,"

Apparently the payload can include a triple tube torpedo launcher
 

RAF air-dropping an RN 8.5m Kraken K3 Scout USV with a 650 nautical mile range and a 600 kg payload from an A-400M. Operational on landing in the water.
 
Don't shoot the messenger!😁


"A warship is, once you strip the paint off the idea, an apartment building that shoots. Most of what fills a destroyer’s hull exists to feed, bunk, ventilate and generally keep alive the few hundred people who run the place."



"DARPA looked at that century-old arrangement and asked a rude question: what happens to a ship if nobody ever comes aboard? Not a smaller crew. Nobody, ever.

"The answer is called USX-1 Defiant, a 180-foot, 240-metric-ton vessel with no bunks, no galley and no doors sized for people. Right now it is sitting its final acceptance trials off the California coast. Pass them, and DARPA hands the ship to the US Navy.

"Every “unmanned” ship before this one was a manned ship with the people deleted. This one never had them in the blueprints."

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"Deleting the people deletes a shocking amount of ship. No passageways, no life support, no bridge, no manual controls. What’s left is a hull no wider than its largest piece of hardware, which buys a smaller, cheaper vessel with far more of its 240 metric tons available for fuel and payload instead of bunk rooms.

"It also buys toughness. The design “can handle operations in sea state 5 with no degradation,” NOMARS program manager Greg Avicola said at the christening ceremony last August, and it’s rated to survive 30-foot seas and get back to work once the storm passes. DARPA puts top speed at 20 knots and endurance at up to a year at sea without a port call.

"The hull is deliberately simple, too. DARPA designed it so the yards that normally build yachts, tugs and workboats, the Tier III end of American shipbuilding, can produce and maintain it. That’s the industrial-base play hiding inside the robot: a warship you can order from places that have never touched a destroyer."

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2,100 nautical miles with nobody aboard


Construction wrapped in February 2025, the hull went into the water at Nichols Brothers Boat Builders in Washington state that March, and DARPA broke the traditional bottle on the bow at Everett in August.

Then it went to work. The first open-ocean leg ran more than 1,100 nautical miles from Port Angeles, Washington, down to Port Hueneme, California, covered in five days with no one aboard.

Port Hueneme is where the trials got interesting. The team refueled the ship at sea from a crewed vessel, the Melissa C, passing lead-lines and connecting hoses without a single person stepping onto Defiant. They used water instead of fuel for the demo, which is the kind of caution you appreciate in people testing a robot for the first time.

The same week brought high-speed turns, straight-line runs close to 20 knots, and harbor entries, exits and dockings handled entirely by the autonomy system. Sailors from the Navy’s Unmanned Surface Vessel Squadron One were on hand at Port Hueneme, getting a close look at their possible future.

Another roughly 1,000 nautical miles of autonomous open-ocean transit brought the ship back to Long Beach at the end of September. Call it about 2,100 autonomous nautical miles through September 2025. DARPA hasn’t published an updated mileage figure since.

The ship spent the winter at Long Beach getting engineering changes for reliability and robustness, and was back on the water in February.
 
From the same article an interesting power plant

Diesel fuelled
800 kW
4 moving parts

KARNO Flameless Oxidation

A generator with four moving parts wants the job



While the ship sits its exams, its next powerplant showed up. On May 19, Texas-based Hyliion announced that the Office of Naval Research, in partnership with DARPA, selected Defiant as the launch platform for sea trials of its KARNO generator technology.

The delivery is “a drop-in 800 KW power system consisting of four 200 KW KARNO Cores,” per the company’s announcement, in a keel-cooled configuration. It runs on F-76 marine diesel, the Navy’s standard fuel, and puts out 800 volts DC straight into the ship’s electrical architecture.

The interesting part is what a KARNO Core actually is. It’s a linear generator that turns heat into electricity through flameless oxidation, a distant descendant of the 200-year-old Stirling engine. Sealed helium expands and contracts, shoving magnet-carrying shafts back and forth through copper coils, and out comes current. Hyliion says each core has only four moving parts, riding on gas bearings, with no oil anywhere in the system.

On a normal ship, a diesel generator’s appetite for oil changes and filter swaps is somebody’s job. On a ship nobody can board, it’s a design flaw. A sealed generator with almost nothing to service is close to the whole assignment.

One number is deliberately missing here: the date. Land-based testing on simulated Navy load profiles is already running, but neither ONR nor DARPA has given a timeline for the sea trials, as The Defense Post noted. Any year you see attached to this is somebody’s guess.

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Flameless Oxidation?

AI answers

Flameless oxidation (FLOX) is an industrial combustion and emission control process that converts hazardous compounds into harmless carbon dioxide and water vapor without a visible flame. It operates by pre-mixing air, fuel, and exhaust gases at high temperatures, which practically eliminates harmful nitrogen oxides (NOx) and achieves destruction efficiencies over 99.9999%.

How It Works

Instead of relying on a localized, high-temperature "flame front" where air and fuel instantly ignite, flameless oxidation safely disassembles chemical structures through controlled heat transfer and chemistry:

Preheating: Waste gases, ambient air, and auxiliary fuel are premixed and passed through a preheated inert ceramic media bed.

Dilution: Exhaust gases are heavily recirculated back into the reaction chamber, which dilutes the oxygen and distributes temperatures evenly.

Oxidation: The gases react at temperatures typically between 850 ° C and 1,000 ° C, oxidizing organic compounds into innocuous byproducts while releasing heat back into the ceramic bed.

Key Applications

Industrial Emission Control: Commonly deployed as Flameless Thermal Oxidizers (FTOs) to destroy toxic Volatile Organic Compounds (VOCs) and petroleum hydrocarbons in manufacturing and oil/gas fields.

High-Efficiency Furnaces: Used in the metallurgical and steel industries to achieve highly uniform furnace temperatures without localized hot spots.

Primary Advantages

Ultra-Low Emissions: By avoiding extreme temperature peaks, the production of thermal NOx is severely suppressed, often dropping to as low as 1 ppmv.

Efficiency: Because the reaction heat is continually recovered by the ceramic media, the process is highly thermally efficient.

Safety: The mixture is continuously kept below the lower flammability limit (LFL), making it incredibly stable.

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