Would Mandatory National Service make the CF stronger?

[Colin Parkinson]

Well. That's true isn't it.

Which says so much about their politics. I'm not quite sure what your point was about the Democrats but I'm certainly of the view that neither the first nor the last candidate was a good choice considering the mood of the country and the issues facing it. It was a weak attempt to catch the centre and they failed miserably.

Biden did not run as a independent and then their attempt to insert K.H. That's all on the power factions within the Democratic party, They busy effing the dog, thinking Biden would last through the election and then it would not matter if he lived or died. Both parties did a dismal job of preparing a new generation of candidates and here we are with the result.

I also agree with @Kirkhill that the US poor quality of education is playing a role in voters being easily misled, by both sides.

 

[Cloud Cover]

66,000 in 1918 is ~330,000 today
47,000 in 1945 is ~180,000 today

All on YouTube, TikTok and X.
No feckin way would I ever support this country getting into a general war ever again on behalf of or at the best of another country. Which is why I still think we need to up our deterrence game to the max possible (nuclear) to keep the Zombies off the continent. Defend the homeland and when all those relevant boxes have a check mark, be forever vigilant.
Want to have a proactive off shore defence tied to foreign policy? Intelligence with kinetic effects. Neutralize threats detected in the embryo. Special forces etc. Abort the enemy and it’s plans in genesis, stuff like that.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Not to sound like too much of an ass but I bet mandatory service would look a lot like this for many people.


Day 1: "hurt" doing the FORCE test

-MELs for the next year and can't work.
-VAC claim.
-Hurting myself gave me a mental health injury.
-VAC claim.
-PCat; 3B medical release.
-2 years salary at 90% of Cpl(0)
-2 year school program worth $40,000
-on second thought I can't work; CAF Long Term Disability.

 

[KevinB]

Want to have a proactive off shore defence tied to foreign policy? Intelligence with kinetic effects. Neutralize threats detected in the embryo. Special forces etc. Abort the enemy and it’s plans in genesis, stuff like that.

The West as a whole is fairly reluctant to conduct operations like that.
The French will if they feel it is in their best interests.
The British used to.
America has been trying to get away from that.

No feckin way would I ever support this country getting into a general war ever again on behalf of or at the best of another country. Which is why I still think we need to up our deterrence game to the max possible (nuclear) to keep the Zombies off the continent. Defend the homeland and when all those relevant boxes have a check mark, be forever vigilant.

Which generally doesn't stop "little green men" or gray zone operations.

 

[Kirkhill]

Not to sound like too much of an ass but I bet mandatory service would look a lot like this for many people.


Day 1: "hurt" doing the FORCE test

-MELs for the next year and can't work.
-VAC claim.
-Hurting myself gave me a mental health injury.
-VAC claim.
-PCat; 3B medical release.
-2 years salary at 90% of Cpl(0)
-2 year school program worth $40,000
-on second thought I can't work; CAF Long Term Disability.

The Danes are a generally fit society.

They find that about half of those eligible are fit for national service.

 

[Jarnhamar]

The Danes are a generally fit society.

They find that about half of those eligible are fit for national service.

Our societal fitness level is definitely paying for our sedimentary lifestyle and electronics addiction.

Getting rid of the fitness test before basic means we got more recruits, at the price of some of those recruits wasting tax dollars, resources, and space e.g "warrior" platoons.

People get genuinely hurt and im not trashing them. Naturally people faking injuries to get compensation come with the territory but I'm thinking that process would be all too easy to take advantage of if we introduced mandatory service

 

[Furniture]

Naturally people faking injuries to get compensation come with the territory but I'm thinking that process would be all too easy to take advantage of if we introduced mandatory service

I agree 100%.

With an all volunteer force we get a few genuine malingers, with 100k+ new conscripts each year, we would have tens of thousands of them.

 

[Kirkhill]

Which generally doesn't stop "little green men" or gray zone operations.

Which in turn drives our society towards more of a police state and a permanent state of emergency.

One of Britain's points of pride has been that they have had no "internal passports". No freeborn Brit had to carry ID. They have had to carry licences for particular purposes but never had to carry papers to identify themselves.

Now they are struggling with possibly having to carry ID because there are so many foreigners, legal and illegal, claiming the benefits of citizenship.

It is getting harder to find freedom these days.

 

[daftandbarmy]

No, conscription wouldn't go down well in Canada... for a third time if it was tried yet again

Conscription Crisis of 1917 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Conscription Crisis of 1944 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[RangerRay]

No, conscription wouldn't go down well in Canada... for a third time if it was tried yet again

Conscription Crisis of 1917 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Conscription Crisis of 1944 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And I’m guessing the Depression era work camps without a Depression economy won’t go over well either.

https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/unemployment-relief-camps

 

[Blackadder1916]

And I’m guessing the Depression era work camps without a Depression economy won’t go over well either.

https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/unemployment-relief-camps

At least, don't let them gather in Regina.

The Regina Riot - Canada's History

During the Great Depression, more than a thousand single homeless unemployed men rode the rails in an organized protest that led to a bloody clash.

www.canadashistory.ca