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A two year demotion. Talk about devastating repercussions.
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Probation and $2,000 fine in court; demotion as disciplinary finding under the Police Act.
Drunk driving, leaving the scene of an accident, lying about his vehicle being stolen and damaged. Still a police officer - but I can't see him ever credibly testifying in court again.
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IMO he should be fired and out of the profession. There’s screwing up, and then there’s deliberately lying about it and trying to hide it. The impaired is a big deal. The false stolen report, IMO, is bigger, from a professional standpoint. He will never be a credible witness again. FWIW, a two year demotion is a pretty heavy financial hit- about $33k in his case. Though I note it’s only if he ever comes off medical leave.
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Some interesting changes
Thank frig. Long, long overdue.
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Awkward ....
A serious security breach has Victoria police warning people to consider temporarily moving out of their homes.
Police said one of their officers lost a notebook for eight days in February and it was in temporary possession of what they called “the criminal element.”
Const. Terri Healy with Victoria police said the officer misplaced the book while executing a search warrant.
“They took all necessary steps,” she said. “They advised their supervisor that the notebook had been left behind at the search warrant. And our information office notified the Office of the Information and Privacy Commissioner.”
Healy said the notebook contained the personal information of 54 individuals, who are now potentially at risk.
“Out of an abundance of caution, we have offered those affected information on personal safety and home safety,” she added.
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Victoria police officer’s lost notebook contained personal information of 54 people
A serious security breach has Victoria police warning people to consider temporarily moving out of their homes.
Police said one of their officers lost a notebook for eight days in February and it was in temporary possession of what they called “the criminal element.”
Const. Terri Healy with Victoria police said the officer misplaced the book while executing a search warrant.
“They took all necessary steps,” she said. “They advised their supervisor that the notebook had been left behind at the search warrant. And our information office notified the Office of the Information and Privacy Commissioner.”
Healy said the notebook contained the personal information of 54 individuals, who are now potentially at risk.
“Out of an abundance of caution, we have offered those affected information on personal safety and home safety,” she added.
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The B.C. Civil Liberties Association said "It's an indication that their policies and procedures are inadequate to safeguard these notes from disclosure and tampering."
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Innocent mistakes happen. People are People. This officer didn't try to cover it up with some story, or pretend it didn't happen...they realized their mistake, went to their supervisor about it, and appropriate steps were taken.Awkward ....
Victoria police officer’s lost notebook contained personal information of 54 people
A serious security breach has Victoria police warning people to consider temporarily moving out of their homes.
Police said one of their officers lost a notebook for eight days in February and it was in temporary possession of what they called “the criminal element.”
Const. Terri Healy with Victoria police said the officer misplaced the book while executing a search warrant.
“They took all necessary steps,” she said. “They advised their supervisor that the notebook had been left behind at the search warrant. And our information office notified the Office of the Information and Privacy Commissioner.”
Healy said the notebook contained the personal information of 54 individuals, who are now potentially at risk.
“Out of an abundance of caution, we have offered those affected information on personal safety and home safety,” she added.
Victoria police officer’s lost notebook contained personal information of 54 people - BC | Globalnews.ca
The B.C. Civil Liberties Association said "It's an indication that their policies and procedures are inadequate to safeguard these notes from disclosure and tampering."
Sure, it's a hassle. But it's life & life happens.
The BC Civil Liberties Associstion needs to get off their high horse. This is one of those things where not commenting would have been a lot better. (Imo anyway)
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there is potential risk because bad guys have all their contact info- but there isn’t presently any anticipated or imminent risk.
Theres a good chance this is just an officer who was assisting in the search and their notebook doesn’t have informant identity or info in it. So it’s just an abundance of caution because Ingrid’s contact and break and enter compliant details are out there
Theres a good chance this is just an officer who was assisting in the search and their notebook doesn’t have informant identity or info in it. So it’s just an abundance of caution because Ingrid’s contact and break and enter compliant details are out there
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Just one last question, colonel. If you ordered that Santiago was not to be touched and your orders are always obeyed, then Santiago shouldn’t have been in any danger, should he?
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Well played.
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Agreed.
While this is a bit of an "oops". It would for all intents and purposes seem that the officer involved has owned it. Not really an example of "Behaving badly"...
Totally agreed. There are so many good applicants (well maybe not as many anymore) who can't get hired because of this reason or that reason...and if this had happened prior to him applying, he never would have been hired.
The impaired is poor enough judgment, but the false report of it being stolen? In another scenario, that could have ended up with insurance money being paid out, so...
Tough to say if it would be a general duty notebook with a bunch of stuff from a bunch of files, or if it would be a case-specific project notebook with, say, notes for witness statements etc pertaining to that particular file. Either way an embarrassing oops. I wonMt try to speculate about the specifics on the potential risks.
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This is the internet. All we do is random uninformed speculation.
If the Colonel ordered Santiago not to be touched and his orders were always followed, could it be quite possible that Santiago was still in danger because he pissed off people outside of the Colonel's command...??
Just sayin'...if I ordered my guys not to touch a certain person, and that person ended up dead anyway...then MAYBE it wasn't my guys. Ever think of that Mr. Tom Cruise!?
(I probably wouldn't lose my temper & admit to perjury while yelling at crown counsel tho...)
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Except that on that base, everybody without exception was under the colonel's command.
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If it contained CI info and other aspects putting witnesses at risk etc on that file- it wouldn’t be just providing “information on personal safety and home safety” as a response. Maybe you’re right, but my experience with what you do in response to stolen notebooks and USB drives says this isn’t. But you’re right- we can’t know presently
Good reminder that it’s not a good look with the wild speculation lol
Edited because I was making no sense. Which isn’t unusual.
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Sure, that makes sense too. Suggesting someone moves out of their house struck me as something more than just being cautious. I can't recall ever reading about police suggesting people leave home just in case.
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The info we give to notify individuals who are are at various risk levels across the country varies and even agency to agency. But generally it covers a massive gamut of potential actions out of liability.
I would have expected several other things and referrals in that article if it was considered a serious present potential threat because of police actions.
But Brihard reminded me that the news gives me nothing here and I’m filling in the blanks with my own bias.
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