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2025 Federal Election - 28 Apr 25

It would appear that it wasn’t freeland's idea to freeze the bank accounts of convoy participants and supporters. Carney, trudeau's economic advisor at the time, penned an opinion piece, on 08 Feb 22. On 14 Feb, trudeau vows to freeze bank accounts. On 17 Feb, freeland initiated the freeze.


It’s time to end the sedition in Ottawa, Mark Carney writes

The Globe and Mail (Ontario Edition)8 Feb 2022MARK CARNEY OPINION Ottawa resident and former governor of the Bank of Canada and the Bank of England

Occupiers’ actions are making residents’ lives unbearable and aim to undermine democracy and the rule of law

In our capital city, many people have been terrorized for more than a week. Women fleeing abuse have been harassed. Many elderly have been too afraid to venture outside their homes for groceries. Families have been deprived of sleep for days on end by the constant barrage of 100-decibel noise. Control over the city’s downtown core, which includes the Parliamentary Precinct, was ceded by the police and taken over by what the chair of the Police Services Board describes as an “insurrection.”

Canadians can be forgiven if they thought this would never happen in Ottawa.

The goals of the leadership of the so-called Freedom Convoy were clear from the start: to remove from power the government that Canadians elected less than six months ago. Their blatant treachery was dismissed as comic, which meant many didn’t take them as seriously as they should have. Certainly not our public-safety authorities, whose negotiations facilitated the convoy’s entry into the heart of our capital and have watched as its dangerous infrastructure has been steadily reinforced – a policy of engagement that has amounted to a reality of appeasement.

On the first weekend, many Canadians who joined the demonstrations undoubtedly had peaceful objectives. Tired as we all are with unprecedented disruptions that we’ve all endured over the past two years, it’s understandable that many would want to come to Ottawa to protest. It’s a free country, and everyone should be able to express their opinions free of interference from the state, just as the press should be able to report without fear of harassment or intimidation.

But now in its second week, no one should have any doubt. This is sedition. That’s a word I never thought I’d use in Canada. It means “incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority.”

On Sunday, authorities began to draw the line. Declaring a state of emergency was the right thing to do.

From now on, those who are occupying the downtown of our country’s capital should be in no doubt. They are no longer simply advocating a different strategy to end COVID-19. They are not patriots. This is not about “restoring freedom” but beginning anarchy. This isn’t getting carried away at a rally. It’s not a rush of blood to the head. It’s deliberate and calculated, and because of that, they must know that from now on there will be consequences for their actions.

The police had been reluctant to enforce the most basic bylaws. But these “infractions” – the constant blaring of horns at all hours, the harassment of people, the culture of fear – have been making residents’ lives hell, will bankrupt our businesses, and, if left unchecked, would help achieve the convoy’s goal of undermining our democracy and the rule of law.

Those who are still helping to extend this occupation must be identified and punished to the full force of the law.

Drawing the line means choking off the money that financed this occupation. Again, many Canadians who were among the initial donors were likely well meaning. Perhaps they were unaware of the convoy’s stated objectives or – like many in positions of authority in Ottawa – they didn’t take them seriously. Perhaps all they wanted was a new COVID-19 policy with fewer restrictions.

But by now anyone sending money to the convoy should be in no doubt: You are funding sedition. Foreign funders of an insurrection interfered in our domestic affairs from the start. Canadian authorities should take every step within the law to identify and thoroughly punish them. The involvement of foreign governments and any officials connected to them should be identified, exposed and addressed.

I know from experience that crises don’t end by themselves. You can’t spin your way out of failure. You must recognize the scale of the challenge, devise a clear plan and then implement it methodically and deliberately. Your determination to do so can never be in doubt. Then and only then can order be restored. In this case, that means enforcing the law and following the money. Individuals must be held responsible for their lawlessness and those who financed their actions must be dissuaded from ever doing so again.

Our Constitution is based on peace, order and good government. We must live up to this founding principle in order to protect all our freedoms.
I understand that we now have the benefit and clarity of hindsight, but HOLY F**K...

This guy really is worse than Trudeau, isn't he??


I don't recall the Freedom Convoy ever stating that their goal was to undermine democracy. (I think the organizers were smart enough to know that having that as an objective wouldn't exactly get the country behind them...)

Nor do I believe their objective was to remove a recently elected government from power altogether. (Ironic now seeing as it was written by a guy who holds the country's top office despite not being elected...)



This article is so full of Trudeau-like hypocrisy, I won't even get started on a point for point.

We were all alive during that time, and we've all followed the legal drama since (to various extents)

But I do want to point out just how "divide and conquer" his reaction/suggestions are. It's like him & Trudeau took a page out of the same Psy-Ops book.

(I'd also like to point out that the leaders of the convoy wanted the government to provide or designate a representative, who would be able to sit down and hash out some of the issues that people had with the government's handling of the situation. And throughout that whole ordeal - the government didn't once ask, offer, or try to engage in any dialogue at all...)
 
I don't recall the Freedom Convoy ever stating that their goal was to undermine democracy. (I think the organizers were smart enough to know that having that as an objective wouldn't exactly get the country behind them...)

Nor do I believe their objective was to remove a recently elected government from power altogether. (Ironic now seeing as it was written by a guy who holds the country's top office despite not being elected...)
That's literally what many were calling for, only s few months after an election calling for Trudeau and the government to step down and a new election be held. The trucker convoy was a majority foreign funded influence operation, and we still have no explanation why so many had Pierre Poilievre for prime minister flags before he was even in the CPC race.

Controversial opinion but when a protest is declared illegal and then has foreign funding keeping it going, i see no issue with siezing the bank accounts of organizers.
 
It would appear that it wasn’t freeland's idea to freeze the bank accounts of convoy participants and supporters. Carney, trudeau's economic advisor at the time, penned an opinion piece, on 08 Feb 22. On 14 Feb, trudeau vows to freeze bank accounts. On 17 Feb, freeland initiated the freeze.


It’s time to end the sedition in Ottawa, Mark Carney writes

The Globe and Mail (Ontario Edition)8 Feb 2022MARK CARNEY OPINION Ottawa resident and former governor of the Bank of Canada and the Bank of England

Occupiers’ actions are making residents’ lives unbearable and aim to undermine democracy and the rule of law

In our capital city, many people have been terrorized for more than a week. Women fleeing abuse have been harassed. Many elderly have been too afraid to venture outside their homes for groceries. Families have been deprived of sleep for days on end by the constant barrage of 100-decibel noise. Control over the city’s downtown core, which includes the Parliamentary Precinct, was ceded by the police and taken over by what the chair of the Police Services Board describes as an “insurrection.”

Canadians can be forgiven if they thought this would never happen in Ottawa.

The goals of the leadership of the so-called Freedom Convoy were clear from the start: to remove from power the government that Canadians elected less than six months ago. Their blatant treachery was dismissed as comic, which meant many didn’t take them as seriously as they should have. Certainly not our public-safety authorities, whose negotiations facilitated the convoy’s entry into the heart of our capital and have watched as its dangerous infrastructure has been steadily reinforced – a policy of engagement that has amounted to a reality of appeasement.

On the first weekend, many Canadians who joined the demonstrations undoubtedly had peaceful objectives. Tired as we all are with unprecedented disruptions that we’ve all endured over the past two years, it’s understandable that many would want to come to Ottawa to protest. It’s a free country, and everyone should be able to express their opinions free of interference from the state, just as the press should be able to report without fear of harassment or intimidation.

But now in its second week, no one should have any doubt. This is sedition. That’s a word I never thought I’d use in Canada. It means “incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority.”

On Sunday, authorities began to draw the line. Declaring a state of emergency was the right thing to do.

From now on, those who are occupying the downtown of our country’s capital should be in no doubt. They are no longer simply advocating a different strategy to end COVID-19. They are not patriots. This is not about “restoring freedom” but beginning anarchy. This isn’t getting carried away at a rally. It’s not a rush of blood to the head. It’s deliberate and calculated, and because of that, they must know that from now on there will be consequences for their actions.

The police had been reluctant to enforce the most basic bylaws. But these “infractions” – the constant blaring of horns at all hours, the harassment of people, the culture of fear – have been making residents’ lives hell, will bankrupt our businesses, and, if left unchecked, would help achieve the convoy’s goal of undermining our democracy and the rule of law.

Those who are still helping to extend this occupation must be identified and punished to the full force of the law.

Drawing the line means choking off the money that financed this occupation. Again, many Canadians who were among the initial donors were likely well meaning. Perhaps they were unaware of the convoy’s stated objectives or – like many in positions of authority in Ottawa – they didn’t take them seriously. Perhaps all they wanted was a new COVID-19 policy with fewer restrictions.

But by now anyone sending money to the convoy should be in no doubt: You are funding sedition. Foreign funders of an insurrection interfered in our domestic affairs from the start. Canadian authorities should take every step within the law to identify and thoroughly punish them. The involvement of foreign governments and any officials connected to them should be identified, exposed and addressed.

I know from experience that crises don’t end by themselves. You can’t spin your way out of failure. You must recognize the scale of the challenge, devise a clear plan and then implement it methodically and deliberately. Your determination to do so can never be in doubt. Then and only then can order be restored. In this case, that means enforcing the law and following the money. Individuals must be held responsible for their lawlessness and those who financed their actions must be dissuaded from ever doing so again.

Our Constitution is based on peace, order and good government. We must live up to this founding principle in order to protect all our freedoms.
Cool, I like him even more now.
 
She’s VERY good - surgically cut throat - at what she does, zero question. She’s a long-time true believer. The old school in me shuddered when she publicly shit on a former Team Blue party leader for wishing Anita Anand best of luck on Twitter when Anand said she was stepping down. That one tweet tells me a lot about how they play politics on Team Blue - or at least what the boss is happy to put up with. Said former CPC leader continues to faithfully defend the colours, so I guess she told HIM.
Being good is one thing; being a zealot is not, particularly if you want to sway the votes of people who are more moderate.

Sorry mate, I'm just reading that snippet of an article in the picture there...and I'm not sure I follow

What's concerning?
Well, according to the guy who wants to be PM, they are not a MAGA-friendly party, so which is it?
 
It might not be that bad. There is plenty of people in Ontario that believe it was all a scamdemic. He just needs a bunch of those in his riding. Let's not forget who his main detractors were. The Ontario liberals and the leftist media.

Speaking of left and right, look close and you'll see this is a left bias hit piece.
You don't even have to look at that close lol

The language used, the subtle manipulation of opinions and emotions, the complete failure to even mention both sides of the public health debate that was very much occurring at the time, or the selective use of quotes with no larger context, and no follow up on the subject's beliefs or practices since 2021 or whether the subject's opinions have since been proven to be true or false, etc

As much as the article tries to leave the reader with the impression that this guy is one of those loonie-toons who "rejects science & is willing to risk the lives of everybody we individually love and hold dear!" crazy people, the article meets the criteria of a hit piece.

(Or at least a very one-sided opinion piece, which isn't the media's job if they were simply announcing someone deciding to run for office. Report objectively and without bias the facts that people need to know, and let them form their own opinions!"

...

As a medical doctor who was in charge of a health region at the time, I'm actually quite curious as to what his viewpoints were and why he had them, and whether they've changed since.

As someone who isn't a doctor, and has never been in charge of a health region (that employs hundreds of doctors, specialists, nurses, etc) I could probably learn some interesting perspectives & facts that could change my opinion (for better or worse) on a few things.

I'm certainly not arrogant enough to think that his thoughts & opinions are nonsense and not worth listening to or investigating, like the author of the article seems to suggest she is. They don't exactly put "fresh out of med school" doctors in charge of health regions.
 
9 years of what ever the heck the CPC is now, not a leader or a caucus I can fully support. I hear more Carney bad for XYZ, and 5% why a cpc government would be better. Want my vote? Convince me why i should vote for you not why I shouldn't vote the other guy.

The CPC platform is available for everyone to read. PP has put out numerous content on what he’d do. If that’s not your jam then just say it. Say: “I’d rather have a repeat of the last 9 years.” Because that’s what you want. And that’s ok.

I’d rather see PP get a chance. But I’m not going to be upset with a Carney government. I think that will open doors that wouldn’t otherwise ever open.
 
The CPC platform is available for everyone to read. PP has put out numerous content on what he’d do. If that’s not your jam then just say it. Say: “I’d rather have a repeat of the last 9 years.” Because that’s what you want. And that’s ok.

I’d rather see PP get a chance. But I’m not going to be upset with a Carney government. I think that will open doors that wouldn’t otherwise ever open.
The CPC has a "hidden agenda" don't ya know? Not like the pure as wool/driven snow LPC..

The CPC will do unspeakable horrors if elected, but the LPC will protect the CBC, abortions, and French.

Don't be a racist, vote LPC.
 
The CPC has a "hidden agenda" don't ya know? Not like the pure as wool/driven snow LPC..

The CPC will do unspeakable horrors if elected, but the LPC will protect the CBC, abortions, and French.

Don't be a racist, vote LPC.

Don't forget.

The LPC will also continued ensure evil legal firearms owners are punished for their interests.
 
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Sorry mate, I'm just reading that snippet of an article in the picture there...and I'm not sure I follow

What's concerning?
Unless you’ve been living under a rock or in a MAGA media bubble, you’d know that MAGA is absolutely toxic in this country.

Politics is a game of addition.
 
Which is why it's interesting (at least to me) that her boss seems to have been OK with the very public zinger at the former boss.
I’ve always believed in giving credit where credit is due - and for me credit was due to AA. I believed that she did care and was trying to improve overall the CAF. The items that this MP is bringing forward very much was at the fore front of the agenda for JT and as the leader, he drove the boat.
Carney seems to have pivoted away from a fair number of those issues, at least by the composition of his cabinet and his language used in his of his speeches.
This MP’s actions again speaks to the extremely small ball, village mentality that seems entrenched in the CPC, along with a fair number of the other parties.
 
Here’s an interview with Darrell Bricker, CEO of IPSOS, which some regard as a pro-Tory polling firm. I’m not sure if I buy that but they are one of the best and he usually appears on Tory-friendly shows and gives fair assessments.

In this podcast, he says that two things happened to propel the Liberals ahead of the CPC: Trump started threatening Canada and Carney replaced Trudeau. Now I had already come to that conclusion, but he made a good case that if only one of things happened, the Tories would still be leading.

Carney - Trump threats -> Tory lead

Trudeau + Trump threats -> Tory lead

Carney + Trump threats -> Liberal lead

The Liberals got their perfect storm and the Tories appear to be surprised by it.

 
I’ve always believed in giving credit where credit is due - and for me credit was due to AA. I believed that she did care and was trying to improve overall the CAF. The items that this MP is bringing forward very much was at the fore front of the agenda for JT and as the leader, he drove the boat.
Carney seems to have pivoted away from a fair number of those issues, at least by the composition of his cabinet and his language used in his of his speeches.
This MP’s actions again speaks to the extremely small ball, village mentality that seems entrenched in the CPC, along with a fair number of the other parties.
Which MP is that?
 
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