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2025 Federal Election - 28 Apr 25

So, almost no tariff on vehicles and 10% on other select items. No auto jobs should be lost. Sound like, on the whole, comparatively, we made out fairly good for now.
there is a 25% tariff on imported autos, that's not "almost no"


and Stellantis has idled a plant, for two weeks for now.

 
So we agree the tax credit Carney is promising is the same one Trudeau promised (but didn't deliver) in 2015, 2019, and 2021?
 
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So we agree the tax credit Carney is promising is the same one Trudeau promised (but didn't deliver) in 2015, 2019, and 2021?
No idea.

If it is the same I trust carney can get it done more than Trudeau.

Trudeau isn’t running so I’ll wait and see if carney follows through.

If Trudeau was running I’d be more cynical. Luckily he isn’t.
 
So we agree the tax credit Carney is promising is the same one Trudeau promised (but didn't deliver) in 2015, 2019, and 2021?
So far Carney has followed through on things he has said he will do, so I trust him for now
 

Imported doesn't mean just Canada.

Any vehicle already covered by a current CUSMA will stay that way.

Any parts already covered will remain covered.

Any parts made in the US and sent to Canada for assembly into other products will be tariff free.

That is pretty well a complete car covered.

I am intimately familiar with Stellantis and their temporary shutdowns. I worked there. I have plenty of friends there. I've had dealings with the union and plant management. The plant is only a few blocks from me. Planned layoffs are a way of life here.

My daughter works at the Ford Motor plant, represented by the UNIFOR 200 guy in the one article. They have not been given notice of any layoffs.

Tariffs are claimed as PART of the problem. Part of it. They made the decision to idle the plant before Trump's announcement. Before they even knew what his plan was.

Shutdowns are just part of doing business as the automaker. They temporarily shut down, a number of times, throughout the year for a variety of reasons. If a plant in the southern states walks out on a beef, it takes about two days to run the bank out, before Windsor gets idled. The workers have financial stability throughout.

The unions have become very adept at selling their problems as someone else's fault and sensationalizing their plight. You can take their narrative with a grain of salt.

Lastly, you can expect some twisting of facts and narrative embellishment simply because of who is reporting it. Remember, believe nothing you hear and only half what you see.

Take away what you will.
 

Where is the fear mongering?

He needs to prove to voters that he'll be better against Trump than Carney.

The only mention of tariffs is in the first sentence. Pretty non descriptive and a simple general statement. True, but something that is no surprise to anyone.

Removing the tax on vehicles is a made in Canada solution based on Canadian government taxes.

I have the same concerns with the Keep Canadians Working Fund as I do with Carney’s solution. Where's the beef?

Nothing to do with tariffs
 
It’s lit
Where is the fear mongering?

He needs to prove to voters that he'll be better against Trump than Carney.

The only mention of tariffs is in the first sentence. Pretty non descriptive and a simple general statement. True, but something that is no surprise to anyone.

Removing the tax on vehicles is a made in Canada solution based on Canadian government taxes.

I have the same concerns with the Keep Canadians Working Fund as I do with Carney’s solution. Where's the beef?

Nothing to do with tariffs
It’s Literally in his title of his tweet.

You said anything tariff related now is now fear mongering.

Or is that only when the liberals do it.

At least be consistent
 
I agree with that 67%. Nobody should even consider voting for Carney until he, fully, discloses his finances, and investments.

And not two days before the election date. It needs to be disclosed soon enough for it to be scrutinized and he should be prepared to answer any questions about it.

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Today’s aggregate.

At this point it’s looking like a freight train that isn’t stopping
Corey time the LPC/CPC have been outside their margins of error of each other.

But god damn, look at that slope down for the other three. When we actually go to the polls it’ll be fascinating to see how much of the electorate votes for one of CPC or LPC. This could be an historical consolidation of voter support in the top two parties. It’s like damned near everyone is picking a horse- and LPC are picking up the ‘next best choice’ of the others. Gives a good sense of what a preferential ranked ballot would look like.
 
It’s lit

It’s Literally in his title of his tweet.

You said anything tariff related now is now fear mongering.

Or is that only when the liberals do it.

At least be consistent
Yeah, I addressed that in my answer. You may have missed it in your haste to have an argument.

Quote the post where I said anything tariffs is fearmongering.
 
So far Carney has followed through on things he has said he will do, so I trust him for now
Yeah he hasn't broke a promise in 3 weeks - that's decent. Making two vastly different statements whether he would use emergency powers to push through energy projects or not was a few weeks before he became PM.

Do you trust Carney to take decisive action if one of his PMs makes horrible comments such as those made by Paul Chiang?
 
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Carney is not to be trusted. His history with the LPC, his position on net zero, his past support on the carbon tax, his past position on Canadian O&G, his performance at Bank of England as characterized by a former UK PM, his ties to China... etc etc.

I think for many who now support Trudeau's economic advisor, a big reason is he is an ABC.
 
Yeah, I addressed that in my answer. You may have missed it in your haste to have an argument.
No you dismissed it out right as not important
Quote the post where I said anything tariffs is fearmongering.
“I wonder what crisis Carney is going to use to fearmonger voters with now. He can't use the spectre of thousands of lost jobs, now that tariffs aren't the issue they were 24 hrs ago.”

This was your post from post #1015

You insinuated he was and now cannot fear monger.

Perhaps you missed it in your haste and bias and you decided to apply different standards and expectations.

Tariffs are still a real issue FB. You don’t have to believe it but they are. PP it seems is still also on the tariff issue as he should be.
 
Carney is not to be trusted. His history with the LPC, his position on net zero, his past support on the carbon tax, his past position on Canadian O&G, his performance at Bank of England as characterized by a former UK PM, his ties to China... etc etc.

I think for many who now support Trudeau's economic advisor, a big reason is he is an ABC.
Sounds like you really CAN trust him. If he's so synonymous with the LPC of the last 10 years and their policies, and we have 10 years of experience witnessing and experiencing their government, then we know exactly what he's about!

Also, again with the "ties to China". So what? As with business, there are no morals/ethics in sovereign affairs. The only metric is the property of your people. If he is able and willing to exploit all available avenues for the betterment of Canadians, then a truly prosperous Canada will we have!
 
I agree with that 67%. Nobody should even consider voting for Carney until he, fully, discloses his finances, and investments.

And not two days before the election date. It needs to be disclosed soon enough for it to be scrutinized and he should be prepared to answer any questions about it.

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Whats good for the goose is good for the gander! He's definitely demonstrated that he knows where to put money. If the decisions and investments he makes as PM on behalf of Canada result in more prosperity for Canadians, then I don't give a shit if he gets rich of it as well. Besides, he won't actually know for sure if his decisions will affect his investments because he has no idea if those investments even still exist. Whoever is running his trust could have liquidated those assets and bought stock in something completely different by now.
 

Today’s aggregate.

At this point it’s looking like a freight train that isn’t stopping

National Post put it this way,

Published Apr 03, 2025

If only women voted, Mark Carney would be on track for the biggest landslide in Canadian history

 
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