That’s the onion now though. They are trying to desperately frame Carney as worse than Trudeau. Frankly it’s getting funny at this point.
2025 Federal Election - 28 Apr 25
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IKnowNothing
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To make things even better, there's a one man Future Canada Party that had to change their name, but still comes up
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Family daycare (home care) is like health care in that people don't want to pay the kinds of prices that would result from a mostly unfettered market. There has to be systemic pressure to keep compensation down in order to limit public funding commitments.
Do the arithmetic: look at the required ratios of providers to children and the kinds of facilities needed. From that you can rough out the overhead costs and prospective compensation versus the revenue, and the size of the total work force needed if care is to be truly universal. A couple of red flags should emerge:
- the size of the work force
- the tension between reasonable compensation and what parents and governments are willing to pay
I doubt the willingness of governments and parents to pay the true cost of compensation that would attract enough providers to have a universal program, and capital/operating budgets necessary to have facilities which all meet the most optimistic standards. BC, for example, already can't hire enough teachers and is struggling with school construction. The same problem is at the root of medical provider and facility shortages.
Every new program governments are pressured into creating competes for funding with existing programs which are insufficiently funded. The NDP are chiefly the ones fucking everything into a cocked hat with their desire to be seen cutting ribbons for new (skeletal) programs that are supposed to be camel's noses for ambitious expansion. Few voters are willing to concede that their recently-added public benefits ought to be eliminated until we fix older programs.
The conversation goes something like this:
- A: We need more money/people, or I need this benefit.
- B: Most governments are in deficit and existing programs are not meeting entitlements.
- A: "These go to eleven."
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Some of us were fortunate enough to have a Canada Futures candidate running in our riding.
I truly hope they pick up some vote percentage to at least get noticed a bit more. And that an adult can bring them back into the fold in a meaningful way.
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5) The CPC looked like they were going to win and most "ABC" NDP voters couldn't bring themselves to vote for Trudeau. When Trudeau was replaced, the "ABC" vote cascaded into effect; NDP votes collapsed to the LPC. For those people no CPC leader or platform is acceptable; it was beyond Poilievre's or the party's power to court them. For its part, the LPC could have chosen almost any other leader and the result would be similar; Carney being the leader is not particularly important (at the edge, probably a slightly larger "ABC" shift than, say, Freeland would have triggered). The CPC is still holding polling numbers which in most years would be enough for victory. The election will be determined by a large vote shift that was beyond the capability of conservatives to influence and didn't require the LPC to make a particularly inspired choice of leader.
Jagmeet Singh frequently and boldly claims that the NDP would never support a CPC government. That's how deep the sentiment runs. He's just too weak to hold the most nervous half of his voters.
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By your logic then, the majority of Canadian voters would never vote conservative, and therefore the Conservatives could never form government so long as the LPC can field a leader "that isn't" Trudeau 3.0? Does this not mean that the Conservative party needs to change their image among Canadians?
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Well, if they get the guns, better brush up on the bow hunting skills.
This report came from the Privy Council who work directly for the PMO and Ministries within that portfolio. The PM's Think Tank.
It pretty well states that carrying on down the current Carney/Trudeau path will not bode well for Canadians.
torontosun.com
edmontonjournal.com
torontosun.com
This report came from the Privy Council who work directly for the PMO and Ministries within that portfolio. The PM's Think Tank.
It pretty well states that carrying on down the current Carney/Trudeau path will not bode well for Canadians.
Government report predicts 2040 dystopia: Collapsed economy, hunting for food
Government report warns declining social mobility could revert society to land-baron aristocracy where societal advancement is impossible
Government report predicts 2040 dystopia: Collapsed economy, hunting for food
Government report warns declining social mobility could revert society to a land-baron aristocracy where societal advancement is impossible
torontosun.com
David Staples: Nation's top advisers see dark future for Canada on its current path
The 2024 report Future Lives: Uncertainty, said we face unprecedented uncertainty.
edmontonjournal.com
WARMINGTON: Poilievre addresses dystopia predicted for Canada in government report
Mark Carney's own Privy Council Office issued a report saying Canadians could be living in a dystopia in 15 years.
torontosun.com
Glad you have faith in the PMO despite them all being “liars”.Well, if they get the guns, better brush up on the bow hunting skills.
This report came from the Privy Council who work directly for the PMO and Ministries within that portfolio. The PM's Think Tank.
It pretty well states that carrying on down the current Carney/Trudeau path will not bode well for Canadians.
Government report predicts 2040 dystopia: Collapsed economy, hunting for food
Government report warns declining social mobility could revert society to land-baron aristocracy where societal advancement is impossible
Government report predicts 2040 dystopia: Collapsed economy, hunting for food
Government report warns declining social mobility could revert society to a land-baron aristocracy where societal advancement is impossible
David Staples: Nation's top advisers see dark future for Canada on its current path
The 2024 report Future Lives: Uncertainty, said we face unprecedented uncertainty.
WARMINGTON: Poilievre addresses dystopia predicted for Canada in government report
Mark Carney's own Privy Council Office issued a report saying Canadians could be living in a dystopia in 15 years.
Now for a bit of context:
Things must be looking bleak on internal polling if this is what they are campaigning on now…
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It's not a matter what I think about the proven fact that carney is a liar. Faith in the PMO has nothing to do with it.
The Privy Council is not the PMO.
I posted what is being reported with a sarcastic comment about bow hunting. You started with a personal attack and obviously think your source is better. You're source is no more credible than mine.
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Well, if they get the guns, better brush up on the bow hunting skills.
This report came from the Privy Council who work directly for the PMO and Ministries within that portfolio. The PM's Think Tank.
It pretty well states that carrying on down the current Carney/Trudeau path will not bode well for Canadians.
Government report predicts 2040 dystopia: Collapsed economy, hunting for food
Government report warns declining social mobility could revert society to land-baron aristocracy where societal advancement is impossible
Government report predicts 2040 dystopia: Collapsed economy, hunting for food
Government report warns declining social mobility could revert society to a land-baron aristocracy where societal advancement is impossible
David Staples: Nation's top advisers see dark future for Canada on its current path
The 2024 report Future Lives: Uncertainty, said we face unprecedented uncertainty.
WARMINGTON: Poilievre addresses dystopia predicted for Canada in government report
Mark Carney's own Privy Council Office issued a report saying Canadians could be living in a dystopia in 15 years.
Paul Wells sums up the idiocy of this line of attack much more eloquently than I can.
Why is Pierre Poilievre covering up the coming US civil war?
Look, if we're going to treat scenario reports as gospel, let's go big
paulwells.substack.com
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Duelling Journalists
Hear the banjo music?
Privy Council explained - King's Privy Council for Canada - Wikipedia
Hear the banjo music?
Privy Council explained - King's Privy Council for Canada - Wikipedia
What personal attack?
Desperation has begun sooner than I thought.Paul Wells sums up the idiocy of this line of attack much more eloquently than I can.
Why is Pierre Poilievre covering up the coming US civil war?
Look, if we're going to treat scenario reports as gospel, let's go big
If they lost Paul Wells…
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Just read the Paul Wells article and come back with your "Mea Culpa"
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The majority of Canadian voters usually do not vote conservative, or for any other particular party. Conservatives barely broke 50% in 1984 and a bit better than that in 1958. (Without combing through past election results, my recollection is no other party has ever broken 50%.) The past few elections, the party which gets closest to (or above) about 40% tends to win, provided the lesser parties (particularly the NDP) vote shares don't all hit their floors. When the NDP collapses, the LPC usually benefits. The Liberals also tend to have the most efficient vote distribution. Conservatives win elections when voters are fed up with Liberals, and can usually manage roughly a couple of terms before voters "revert to norm". If conservatives change their image enough to suit Canadians, they won't really be conservative.
For all the bitching about how conservatives supposedly are becoming more extreme, what is actually happening is that progressives are doing so. If we don't use absolute reference points (eg. surveys of peoples' issue positions across time), then all that can be seen is a relative (and accelerating) increase in the distance between the median progressive and the median conservative. Progressives try to sustain the myth that this is more due to absolute conservative movement on issues. The relatively faster absolute movement to extremism is predictable by applying a mix of common sense and definition: progressives want to move faster and further (with less regard for unforeseen outcomes) on issues than conservatives.
We mostly have Liberal governments, and the general trend of the Canadian "prosperity agenda" (ie. the lack of one) is unmistakeable. If we can't arrest the trajectory with moderate corrective actions taken before things get really bad, we should expect immoderate corrective actions when things are really bad.
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