2025 Federal Election - 28 Apr 25

[Lumber]

Hey if we want to know what PP will now do, why don't we jsut see what he has to say about it? Exhibit A:

 

[The Bread Guy]

... The Leader of the Conservative Party of Canada is of course a positioned by their own constitution. However, the office of Leader of the Official Opposition in the house is actually defined under Parliamentary rules, and requires that one be sitting as a Member of Parliament. So, while Poilievre can stay on as party leader should so choose, they will need to pick someone with a seat to fulfil the role of opposition leader in the house. That works against Poilievre staying on; even if someone vacates a seat for him to parachute into a safe riding, it would probably be several months before a byelection. I think Poilievre has very limited time to make survival moves ...

Not to mention who would end up living in Stornoway, right?

Offer cabinet spots to cross the floor to moderate CPC MPs?

It worked before.

True, but methinks this would be more likely (and I'd love to be proven wrong) under a new CPC leader than under current management.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Hey if we want to know what PP will now do, why don't we jsut see what he has to say about it? Exhibit A:

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Still there, in fact ...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1722744682302550389

 

[Colin Parkinson]

The LPC took Châteauguay—Les Jardins-de-Napierville, meaning we now have a dedicated gun control individual whose main political motive is ridding Canada of all firearms ownership.
We will see if she ends up in cabinet or with a public safety nexus.

Either way no matter what the else the LPC doesn’t follow through on, we can likely expect gun control to keep ratcheting up via OICs and regulations, regardless of a parliamentary minority.

Yes people like myself are definitely effed. This election is about to cost me roughly $10,000. It also means that very little will be done to get resources to tidewater.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Hey if we want to know what PP will now do, why don't we jsut see what he has to say about it? Exhibit A:

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Conservatives could always be dirtbags and fire one of their MPs and dump Poilievre in the safe seat.

 

[Remius]

Conservatives could always be dirtbags and fire one of their MPs and dump Poilievre in the safe seat.

Still needs a bi election but that is exactly what they will do.

 

[HavokFour]

Have we started the countdown for if/when Jenni Byrne gets shown the door for good?

Depending on if PP stays or leaves does anyone have any hopes or predictions on who becomes party leader? I might find myself in a serious dilemma if Carney does alright enough as PM, and Michael Chong takes up the CPC banner.

 

[Eaglelord17]

Conservatives = MAGA/MAGA lite is the Liberal 1 and only COA.

It'll be interesting to watch them continue to push this while simultaneously talking about uniting Canada and bringing Canadians together.

The Liberals will not unite me as they actively scapegoat and attack me. As others in this thread have pointed out, this election has a direct financial impact on me. I have about 4k of property which is likely to get confiscated and about 16k of property which I can no longer sell making it’s actual value 0.

Unfortunately it sounds like they are doubling down on it, just leading to a larger rural/urban divide.

 

[dapaterson]

The man has one of the largest pensions of any MP, ever, he could gracefully retire and never work again if he wanted to

The pension rules for MPs are much less generous than those of the CAF, when looking at the ability to draw early.

He has a portion he can draw at age 55, but the majority is not accessible until he turns 65 (unless he takes a significant reduction, which can be done as early as age 55).

Frequently asked questions: Members of Parliament Pension Plan - Canada.ca

Report on the Administration of the Members of Parliament Retiring Allowances Act.

www.canada.ca

 

[Fishbone Jones]

To say I'm not happy is an understatement. I'm looking at a huge financial loss, in the high tens of thousands. There is nothing that has me convinced that Carney and crew will be any different than they have been for the last 10 years. I expect we'll see the same grifting, lying, fraud and financial damage that has plagued us for that time. I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop and really hope above most things, that I won't spend the next few years saying I told you so. I doubt I'll ever trust Carney to do the right thing, unless you think the right thing is decimate our fossil fuel industry, with the accompanying rise in prices and to keep his company out of our politics. I believe there is a sovereignty battle coming and it's not from Quebec. I'm worried about a huge increase in Chinese influence, WEF and a digital central banking system. The military decade of darkness will continue and worsen. We'll see whether northern bases, ships, submarines and planes carney promised will get built and purchased. I've seen enough of Carney’s lies and plagerism over the last month to know he can't be trusted to do what is right for Canada, rather than what's good for him. I could continue, but it'd be for my own cathartic reasons, not information for the masses.

In the end, it is what it is. There's certainly nothing I can do about my lot, short of relocating. I'm not finacially savvy enough to know how to bury my money in an offshore tax haven.

So, for now, I'll just continue to be the spare prick at the wedding and just be pushed and shoved in whatever direction our masters decide to push me. I am overloaded and burnt out by politics and don't have the desire right now to continue bitching about it. However, I'll never quit worrying about what kind of country I'm leaving for my kin behind me and I will never go gentle into that good night.

Edit - Oh, and Ford can go fuck himself, I'm in the market now for a non traditional, non mainstream party to support and put my provincial vote behind. I can only stand a minimum of two faced fuckers right now, so with a stronger, more determined oligarchy in Ottawa, Ford is on the ramp.

 

[Furniture]

You’re looking at seat count for seat count’s sake; I’m looking at their ability to achieve policy objectives, which is generally my measure of a party’s efficacy.

No, I'm thinking long term survival of the party, not short term policy objectives.

The NDP are effectively the LPC with orange. Why should people waste their time and money supporting them?

 

[HavokFour]

Fanjoy is going to have a lot of eyes on him from both sides for some time, not too many candidates manage to pull off such a feat.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1751367624846442961

 

[Navy_Pete]

Why be mad at Ford (or Houston) and not be mad at PP and his campaign who seemed to deliberately antagonize them and push them at arms length?

I'm sure there was a lot of internal push with the campaign strategist folks to change tack after Trudeau resigned before they spoke about it at a Conservative event (vice fully public), but looks like they fed Conservatives did not, in fact, know better.

If PP losing his own seat isn't a wake up call to the CPC that their approach of Reform party lite isn't a path to governement, I don't know what would be. Erin O'Toole would have had a better chance I think of getting cross country support but he got turfed quickly and no one else credible wanted the job.

If I shit the bed I don't blame others first, but doesn't seem like PP and team have any real introspection. Going from a big majority to official opposition, with the leader losing their own seat isn't an example of a good plan, regardless of external circumstances like Trump.

 

[brihard]

Have we started the countdown for if/when Jenni Byrne gets shown the door for good?

I mean, looking at it objectively, Jenni Byrne ran a really great campaign. I just didn’t expect it to be for Bruce Fanjoy.

 

[ModlrMike]

Conservatives = MAGA/MAGA lite is the Liberal 1 and only COA.

It'll be interesting to watch them continue to push this while simultaneously talking about uniting Canada and bringing Canadians together.

Despite the fact that Carney was the only party leader endorsed by Trump.

 

[brihard]

Despite the fact that Carney was the only one of the bunch endorsed by Trump.

Anything Trump utters serves Trump, first and always. He said it because for whatever reason it suits him to.

I have a low opinion of his intellect, cognition, and strategizing, however I’m sure even he knows that an endorsement from him would likely be detrimental to our candidates.

 

[QV]

Yes people like myself are definitely effed. This election is about to cost me roughly $10,000. It also means that very little will be done to get resources to tidewater.

The Liberals will not unite me as they actively scapegoat and attack me. As others in this thread have pointed out, this election has a direct financial impact on me. I have about 4k of property which is likely to get confiscated and about 16k of property which I can no longer sell making it’s actual value 0.

Unfortunately it sounds like they are doubling down on it, just leading to a larger rural/urban divide.

If you're not already in the West, you should try and get there. I know it's not easy to uproot, but I think being in the West has the best chance of long term financial and individual freedom survivability.

 

[lenaitch]

I pretty much completely disagree with your take on the NDP. They are likely done as a meaningful federal party after this election. A vote for NDP is just an inefficient vote for the LPC.

The party would be a lot further ahead if they had a leader with any political acumen at all, and had forced the LPC to the polls back when Trudeau was still PM.

As for how the LPC should govern to hold power, the smart move would be to work with the CPC. Don't give them anything to object to too strongly, and maybe steal some of their support from the center. If the LPC stick to the NDP as their primary dance partner, they may find themselves in the losing side after another few months/years.

The vote distribution between CPC and LPC shows a pretty clear desire for centrist policy from the electorate.

Much like the US, I haven't seen a lot of evidence of bi-partisanship out of Ottawa in the past several years. So long as the political staffers like Telford, Bryne, et al hold as much power as they do, I don't see much changing.

 

[MilEME09]

Despite the fact that Carney was the only party leader endorsed by Trump.

and yet, most of how the CPC conducted them selves aligns a lot more with trump, its entirely possible that Trump tried to play some reverse psychology on the electorate by coming out and praising carney (he never actually endorsed him, just praised him) in order to try and use anti trump sentiment to sink him.

 

[Jarnhamar]

its entirely possible that Trump tried to play some reverse psychology on the electorate by coming out and praising carney (he never actually endorsed him, just praised him) in order to try and use anti trump sentiment to sink him.

Trump shares a lot lore in common with Carney than Poilievre. Trump just recognized a kindered spirit.