Does a province have any right to those things?
A thumbs up for a referendum (even if he says he doesn't think 50%'ll endorse the idea) from the Reform-y end of the Team Blue spectrum.
Stockwell Day supports Alberta vote on separation, warns it's dangerous for Tories
OTTAWA - Former Conservative member of Parliament Stockwell Day says Alberta separatism poses a threat to the federal Conservative party — which risks seeing a return to the kind ofwww.thecanadianpressnews.ca
Yes and no.
No but they have put in billions of dollars in equalization payments.
Maybe. I see CAF members complaining non-stop that they're underpaid. If Alberta doubles their salary that might motivate them to stay. Especially when Carney is saying "there needs to be sacrifices".
Would you withhold medical services from groups that are more prone to HIV or crime?
Not sure what you mean here…. The question is if Alberta gets CAF assets or not and if that is something they are entitled to to begin with.
Not at all the same thing. The question is if Alberta has a right to any CAF assets, and if so what and how much?
Why would Alberta do that. What benefit would a land locked petro state in NA need with a military that is paid twice as much as the most well paid force in the world? They would have way more priorities than paying for a shiny tool they’ll never use. At most I see a militia style army or national guard with a national police force. Fantastical proposition to think that would even be on offer given the many other things they’ll have to cough up money for in their new republic.
Huh? Not even comparable. I would not invest anything in Alberta until the question is settled. And if it still looms in any serious way (which I don’t) I would make sure to keep any strategic investment like a defence industry as far away from them as possible until the issue goes away. To your question though I certainly wouldn’t give anything to anyone that intends to abscond with it. I wouldn’t lend money to a drug addicted family member until they get clean . And I wouldn’t buy them new furniture for their room if they planned on moving out.
Entitled to? Probably not. But they would just keep them and no one would do anything about it.
Alberta forms a sovereign government and says these assets are ours now. Same.way our government decided a bunch of Canadian citizens assets are theirs now.
They'll keep what they want. Who is going to stop them?
Because they can. It's posturing. Look we have our own military. Smith can send a LAV battalion to Latvia to help against Russia.
That would just be spin as typical central and eastern Canada spitting in Albertans face.
Following independence, I can imagine the internal Alberta-stan discussions playing out something like this
Ah so not going to negotiate?
Again, skipping the négociation part. Good luck getting any international recognition.
Right. I’m sure they will…
Sure she will…
Nope. It’s the Canadian spin. Pragmatic.
Nor do I. But I enjoy the various fantasy scenarios and what ifs. Reminds me of years ago debating Quebec separatists on the same subjects. Same cloth, different motivations though.
That's true we could just try and move everything out, or at least anything we deemed of value. It would be entertaining to sit back and watch how that plan unfolds.
I don't think so either. I don't think it'll be remotely close when all shakes out. At this point I DO hope they actually hold a referendum promptly just to get things settled for the near and mid term, so people and business know what to expect. Establish conclusively that the separatist fringe is just that, and then let the business of governing the province and the country carry on with that established.
It would be messy but straightforward. Just get everything from Edmonton to Shilo initially on a 'for now' basis. CFB Cold Lake assets could go wherever makes sense.
I doubt it.
Money talks. I think you're over estimating how put off the international community would be.
If they separated? Yeah. I don't think they will.
What point is that?
I'd imagine it would be cheaper to leave most of the stuff. IT goons in Petawawa just charged almost $1000 to physically move a printer 150 meters between buildings and that didn't include hooking it up.
No. Diplomacy has certainly rules that that are followed. Unilateral non negotiated departures aren’t viewed well. I’m sure Russia will support thought. Peaceful negociated exits generally work out though.
Yes. If you think they will just take stuff like you said.
The point that if the thought you propose is that they will just take what they want and we wouldn’t do anything about it then Canada would be absolutely correct in not adding any additional investment until the matter is settled.
The right honorable Smith, whom everyone ridiculed for meeting Trump, calls him and offers him some oil, energy, and steaks for protection.
A thumbs up for a referendum (even if he says he doesn't think 50%'ll endorse the idea) from the Reform-y end of the Team Blue spectrum.
Stockwell Day supports Alberta vote on separation, warns it's dangerous for Tories
OTTAWA - Former Conservative member of Parliament Stockwell Day says Alberta separatism poses a threat to the federal Conservative party — which risks seeing a return to the kind of
Support for joining the US among Albertans is considerably lower than support for separation. Not sure many of them are looking to be a blatant resource vassal state.
Good point. I assumed the Albertans wanting to separate were just the ones who wanted to join the US.
