The War in Ukraine

[suffolkowner]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1923691516704202971

more of this needed. Dont let NK be a better ally to Russia than we are to Ukraine

 

[MilEME09]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1923691516704202971

more of this needed. Dont let NK be a better ally to Russia than we are to Ukraine

At this point we need to grow a spine and provide deep strike munitions to Ukraine. There are dozens of rail bridges in Russia proper if destroyed. Would hurt russian logistics, they rely so heavily on rail they can't easily push 200km from a rail hub logistical support which is what lead to the supply issues during the battles for kyiv, sumy and northern ukraine

 

[daftandbarmy]

At this point we need to grow a spine and provide deep strike munitions to Ukraine. There are dozens of rail bridges in Russia proper if destroyed. Would hurt russian logistics, they rely so heavily on rail they can't easily push 200km from a rail hub logistical support which is what lead to the supply issues during the battles for kyiv, sumy and northern ukraine

What they really need is the ability to excel at maneuver warfare, which is a little more complicated than just using bigger/ better bombs unfortunately...

 

[GR66]

At this point we need to grow a spine and provide deep strike munitions to Ukraine. There are dozens of rail bridges in Russia proper if destroyed. Would hurt russian logistics, they rely so heavily on rail they can't easily push 200km from a rail hub logistical support which is what lead to the supply issues during the battles for kyiv, sumy and northern ukraine

If only "WE" had deep strike munitions to give to Ukraine...

 

[MilEME09]

If only "WE" had deep strike munitions to give to Ukraine...

We, as in the collective west do, Canada? Not so much

 

[KevinB]

What they really need is the ability to excel at maneuver warfare, which is a little more complicated than just using bigger/ better bombs unfortunately...

Yes, that definitely is a case, but you still can’t amass the forces needed for advance until you remove Russia’s strike assets.

Russian ability to reseed minefields, and their fires via RAM and OWUAS need to be eliminated.

 

[KevinB]

We, as in the collective west do, Canada? Not so much

Tomahawks for the Ukraine now!!!

 

[MilEME09]

Tomahawks for the Ukraine now!!!

Tomahawk, JSOW, JASSM, maverick, WCMD, the list goes on

 

[suffolkowner]

We, as in the collective west do, Canada? Not so much

I think Europe could of and should have used the last 3 yrs to restart production of Storm Shadow and Taurus?

 

[MilEME09]

I think Europe could of and should have used the last 3 yrs to restart production of Storm Shadow and Taurus?

Definitely should have, right now I hope with M10 Booker cancelled in the US, they donate all 400+ to Ukraine

 

[calculus]

Definitely should have, right now I hope with M10 Booker cancelled in the US, they donate all 400+ to Ukraine

I think they only built about 80 before the program was cancelled. I agree they should be donated, if the USA doesn't want them.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

I think they only built about 80 before the program was cancelled. I agree they should be donated, if the USA doesn't want them.

If they sent them and they did well, then they would look bad cancelling it. So they let them rot I suspect.

 

[KevinB]

If they sent them and they did well, then they would look bad cancelling it. So they let them rot I suspect.

Not at all, the point was it wasn’t practical for the light divisions. That doesn’t mean it could not be effective in a different force construct.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Not at all, the point was it wasn’t practical for the light divisions. That doesn’t mean it could not be effective in a different force construct.

Politically it would look bad. Personally I suspect they do decently as a export item, for countries or allies that can't operate a full sized MBT. It is similar to the Leopard 1.