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more of this needed. Dont let NK be a better ally to Russia than we are to Ukraine
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more of this needed. Dont let NK be a better ally to Russia than we are to Ukraine
MilEME09
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At this point we need to grow a spine and provide deep strike munitions to Ukraine. There are dozens of rail bridges in Russia proper if destroyed. Would hurt russian logistics, they rely so heavily on rail they can't easily push 200km from a rail hub logistical support which is what lead to the supply issues during the battles for kyiv, sumy and northern ukraine
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What they really need is the ability to excel at maneuver warfare, which is a little more complicated than just using bigger/ better bombs unfortunately...
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If only "WE" had deep strike munitions to give to Ukraine...
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We, as in the collective west do, Canada? Not so much
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Yes, that definitely is a case, but you still can’t amass the forces needed for advance until you remove Russia’s strike assets.
Russian ability to reseed minefields, and their fires via RAM and OWUAS need to be eliminated.
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Tomahawks for the Ukraine now!!!
MilEME09
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Tomahawk, JSOW, JASSM, maverick, WCMD, the list goes on
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I think Europe could of and should have used the last 3 yrs to restart production of Storm Shadow and Taurus?
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Definitely should have, right now I hope with M10 Booker cancelled in the US, they donate all 400+ to Ukraine
I think they only built about 80 before the program was cancelled. I agree they should be donated, if the USA doesn't want them.
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If they sent them and they did well, then they would look bad cancelling it. So they let them rot I suspect.
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Not at all, the point was it wasn’t practical for the light divisions. That doesn’t mean it could not be effective in a different force construct.
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Politically it would look bad. Personally I suspect they do decently as a export item, for countries or allies that can't operate a full sized MBT. It is similar to the Leopard 1.
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More hybrid warfare, this time taking a page from WW2 pre Normandy Allied radio messages to the French Resistance …
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A potential upgrade for the Leopard 1A5's Ukraine was given is about to start being field tested.
en.defence-ua.com
Alt: Belgium Tests Leopard 1 with Unmanned Turret in Ukraine: Potential Modernization of Over a Hundred Tanks | Defense Express | Ghostarchive
Belgium Tests Leopard 1 with Unmanned Turret in Ukraine: Potential Modernization of Over a Hundred Tanks | Defense Express
The Leopard 1A5BE fitted with the unmanned Cockerill 3105 turret presents a promising upgrade for extending the combat relevance of these tanks, and Belgium plans to test this configuration in Ukraine
en.defence-ua.com
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Seems like a lot of effort to get roughly the same gun?
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Deep strikes on Russia are likley the only way to bring Putin to the peace table at this point.
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One thing I like about the Italians - well I like a lotta things but this is good:
They elected a former porn star/stripper to their version of a parliament.
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The Ukrainians are building their own low cost cruise missile substitutes, apparently with some indigenously developed novel navigation systems. They are moving up in the world from converted Cessnas and small numbers of local Neptunes to making millions of UAVs locally. Some of those UAVs are becoming hard to distinguish from cruise missiles.
Tomahawk is getting a lot of competition.
Welcome to the era of the ‘affordable’ cruise missile
Long-range cruise missiles were once expensive and in the hands of the few. Now they are being reinvented at a fraction of the cost, disrupting defence in the process.
Long-Range 'Deep Precision Strike' Missile To Be Developed By UK And Germany
The weapon, which targets a 2,000km range, is spurred by the Russian threat and could emerge as a ballistic or cruise missile. The “deep precision strike” weapon could emerge as a ballistic or cruise missile and is part of a burgeoning military relationship between the United Kingdom and Germany.
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One of the reasons that I continue to like the original Kratos launch concept is that by launching off rails the weight of the undercarriage is eliminated (this includes eliminating folding and locking mechanisms, hydraulics, electrics, controls and covers) and by using a booster rocket that is jettisoned the vehicle gets to use all its fuel to achieve range. It doesn't have to expend any gaining altitude against the force of gravity.
The recovery chute, in the event that the vehicle RTBs for recovery, weighs very little.
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