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Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

He was the one (PM MC) that promised big things at speeds not seen before.

If he plummets in the polls, no excusing his performance will bail him out.

Some of the Abucus polls already have MC going down now that Trump isn't in the news as much. Canadians might actually have to start paying attention to their own backyard and the issues we have, rather than Elbowing Trump.

 
Bail is heard in provincial courts with provincially appointed Justices of the Peace, or very occasionally a judge for a bail review. Remand custody happens in provincial jails. The former frequently cite the overcrowding and terrible conditions of the latter as a reason to release on bail.

Crimes that are prosecuted summarily, which is most of them, are tried in lower level provincial courts. These courts are horribly backlogged and now routinely double or even triple book judges and court rooms. This causes significant delays in trials, resulting in lots of cases being dismissed per Jordan. It also means that crowns are heavily pressured to make sweetheart deals to keep matters out of court.

Any significant improvement in our criminal justice system needs to start in the provincial courts and provincial jails. Neither is something that will take Parliament legislating. I suppose a Parliamentary committee could do a study and write a report saying what I just said but that would just be repeating what everyone working in the system knows anyway.

For my money, you want to make a fast dent? Work on making sure the right accused are held in custody with the current capacity, and meanwhile work rapidly to expand provincial court capacity, provincial crown prosecutors, and provincial remand centers so that bail court and jail capacity figure less prominently in decisions to grant bail.

Bingo. To change the actual Criminal Code, talk to your MP. To increase the capacity of our justice system to prosecute and incarcerate criminals so they don’t walk, talk to your MLA.
 
Honestly, I consider a year, year-and-a-half to be lightening speed in the GoC.

I’m still in wait-and-see mode. I like the direction some things are going, don’t like others. But I felt the same about Harper and I was a Harpermaniac.
 
Honestly, I consider a year, year-and-a-half to be lightening speed in the GoC.

I’m still in wait-and-see mode. I like the direction some things are going, don’t like others. But I felt the same about Harper and I was a Harpermaniac.
Same. I like the direction, I generally believe the signalled intent, but I don’t any to see actual progress through the process towards results. Having at least some understanding of some of the processes I also accept that that takes time.
 
Some of the Abucus polls already have MC going down now that Trump isn't in the news as much. Canadians might actually have to start paying attention to their own backyard and the issues we have, rather than Elbowing Trump.

This one is a bit of a mixed bag.

Yeah, Team Blue is up in the latest snapshot, but by 2 points. With the margin of error, that's neck and neck, which they seem to have been in Abacus' eyes for a bit ....
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... while the coach of Team Blue is only slooooooooooooowly getting better reviews ....
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.... and PMMC still doing a fair bit better
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It'll be HUGELY interesting to see what happens to the numbers (not just Abacus') once the House is back in session.
 
This one is a bit of a mixed bag.

Yeah, Team Blue is up in the latest snapshot, but by 2 points. With the margin of error, that's neck and neck, which they seem to have been in Abacus' eyes for a bit ....
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... while the coach of Team Blue is only slooooooooooooowly getting better reviews ....
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.... and PMMC still doing a fair bit better
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It'll be HUGELY interesting to see what happens to the numbers (not just Abacus') once the House is back in session.
Those who enjoyed poll reading for the last two years will be trying to find the polls to let them enjoy poll reading for the next two years, perhaps not learning the lesson from January to April.
 
(Not sure what the local police would have done if we were so full we couldn't have housed any addtional inmates? Or if the ERC hadn't been opened. Sure, a mattress on the floor for a 3rd for a few days works, but it isn't doable for the long term. I guess that actually isn't their problem to fix tho, so I don't know) 🤷‍♂
Triple bunking is pretty much the norm in most Ontario detention centres.
 
Triple bunking is pretty much the norm in most Ontario detention centres.
We found it just wasn't sustainable over the long term.

A 2 person cell get's a 3rd...kinda cramped. Then that 3 turned into 4, and stayed like that for years

It got so violent for both inmates and officers, the province went ahead and built the new ERC because the old ERC had just been outgrown
 
Those who enjoyed poll reading for the last two years will be trying to find the polls to let them enjoy poll reading for the next two years, perhaps not learning the lesson from January to April.
"Events" can happen, for sure.
 
"Events" can happen, for sure.
Yup. Not like Donald Trump being elected and talking shit to Canada wasn't the biggest influencer in the election.

Funny, Brian Lilley from the Toronto Sun predicted Trump getting elected would somehow overshadow the next federal election way back in the summer of 2024.
 
Pierre as PM, the man has to do a lot to recover his image.
So first, he wins 80% of BRC riding, still not enough for you. We get it. Your never gonna vote pierre.

Next he has leadership review AFTER a fall sitting in parliament. Watch and see what happens. I suspect Pierre will spank him (Carney) hard and that will feed positively into his staying as leader of the CPC.

The ones who feel Pierre is unelectable and not suitable for Prime Minister are people like you who would never vote for him anyways, but you Liberals are all shook up and afraid. Your afraid because Pierre is excellent with numbers and stats, he embarrassed the hell out of Trudeau with facts and numbers. AS the hangover of Trump dominated election wears off and Canadian swing voters experience buyers remorse, realizing all the same problems are still there and now worse, its not gonna go well for Carney.

As for the "unlikableness" of Pierre. Another reminder, Carney Liberals beat Pierre Conservatives in the national vote count 43% to 41%. Read that again. Thats a political hairline, and with CBC and the MSM wanting to protect their funding/subsidies, they sure as hell pitched in on Team Carney.

And I will bring it up again, Martin beat Harper in 2004 and then lost to him in 2006. I remember those elections quite well. Liberal complacency and arrogance was very strong and it cost them big time, I see history repeating itself.
 
@brihard I will flog this dying horse. The number one reason I felt parliament should be sitting is because they have barely sat more than 3 weeks in the last 10 months. Full stop. End story.

Don't give me long explanations about why do we don't really need parliament sitting, thats absurd. What the hell do we pay them for? One of the unwritten rules in politics is if your explaining things away and a lot, your losing (Warren Kinsella, Sun columnist and former Chretien campaign manager). Your actions should speak for themselves.

For those who think I have zero understanding of politics, I have gotten myself elected to several boards and even as the last president of the Practical Farmers of Ontario (I shut the organization down as it was in everyone's best interest). Does this make me an expert? Hello no. Sure as hell ain't clueless either
 
@brihard I will flog this dying horse. The number one reason I felt parliament should be sitting is because they have barely sat more than 3 weeks in the last 10 months. Full stop. End story.

Don't give me long explanations about why do we don't really need parliament sitting, thats absurd. What the hell do we pay them for? One of the unwritten rules in politics is if your explaining things away and a lot, your losing (Warren Kinsella, Sun columnist and former Chretien campaign manager). Your actions should speak for themselves.

For those who think I have zero understanding of politics, I have gotten myself elected to several boards and even as the last president of the Practical Farmers of Ontario (I shut the organization down as it was in everyone's best interest). Does this make me an expert? Hello no. Sure as hell ain't clueless either
Parliament should be sitting just because seems like a horrible reason for parliament to be sitting.

As for explainions, your comments invite explanations. Notice the Carney government hasn't said peep about parliament not sitting. Just running around doing competent things, not engaging with the kabuki theatre that is question period.

As for why we pay them, tradition probably.
 
Yup. Not like Donald Trump being elected and talking shit to Canada wasn't the biggest influencer in the election.

Funny, Brian Lilley from the Toronto Sun predicted Trump getting elected would somehow overshadow the next federal election way back in the summer of 2024.
Brian Lilley did have that foresight, yet the CPC and supporters kept reading the tea leaves...I mean polls, religiously until..
February I want to say, then they turned into fake news.

I think it would be a little bit foolish to predict how the next federal election is going to go when we cannot predict what Trump is going to do tomorrow, never mind next week, never mind 2 or 3 years from now.

As they say, we can predict everything, except the future.
 
@brihard I will flog this dying horse. The number one reason I felt parliament should be sitting is because they have barely sat more than 3 weeks in the last 10 months. Full stop. End story.

Don't give me long explanations about why do we don't really need parliament sitting, thats absurd. What the hell do we pay them for? One of the unwritten rules in politics is if your explaining things away and a lot, your losing (Warren Kinsella, Sun columnist and former Chretien campaign manager). Your actions should speak for themselves.
I did not explain why we don’t need Parliament sitting. They’re on their normal summer recess with MOs back home doing constituency work. I asked why you think they should, and then I replied to each in turn showing where in just about every case there wasn’t actually something extremely pressing and material for Parliament to do at this moment. With C-5 passed before they rose, I’m personally fine with their normal Calendar.

You do you. The horse won’t get more dead, but you’re free to keep smashing it so it’s soggier.
 
Apologies if this was already posted and I missed it. A rare rebuke by a current government of its predecessor government of the same party; this over Trudeau’s botched LNG export policy:


Carney's Energy Chief Rebukes Trudeau Over LNG Policy in Europe​

Canadian Energy Minister Tim Hodgson said his government is taking steps toward exporting natural gas to Europe, and criticized former Prime Minister Justin Trudeau for not making the same effort.

Bloomberg News
Brian Platt

(Bloomberg) — Canadian Energy Minister Tim Hodgson said his government is taking steps toward exporting natural gas to Europe, and criticized former Prime Minister Justin Trudeau for not making the same effort.
Article content

“The new Canadian federal government has made a conscious choice to re-center energy and critical minerals in how we think about not only our domestic affairs, but Canada’s place in the world,” Hodgson said in the prepared text of remarks he will deliver at the country’s embassy in Berlin.

His speech comes on the same day Mark Carney wraps up a trip through Europe that included stops in Poland, Ukraine, Germany and Latvia. The Canadian prime minister is trying to shore up relationships with European allies and work on defense and trade agreements in the face of the global tariff war launched by the US.

Hodgson’s speech promoted cooperation between Germany and Canada, including on green hydrogen and critical minerals. But it emphasized Canadian natural gas as a low-risk source of energy.

“Unlike the previous Canadian government, which closed the door to LNG exports, Prime Minister Carney’s government has opened it,” said Hodgson, a rookie politician who previously worked with Carney at Goldman Sachs Group Inc. “If the demand is here, and the infrastructure is built, Canada will deliver.”

The comments are the latest example of how Carney, despite coming from the same Liberal Party as Trudeau, has put a much stronger emphasis on conventional energy exports as a potential source of economic strength.

The idea of shipping liquefied natural gas from Canada’s east coast to European markets has lingered for years, but made little progress. After Russia invaded Ukraine in February 2022, Germany searched for replacements for Russian gas and explored options with Trudeau’s government.

When then-German Chancellor Olaf Scholz visited Canada that summer, Trudeau told reporters the business case for shipping gas to Europe has always been difficult due to the fact Canadian gas fields are mostly located in the west, far away from Atlantic Ocean ports.

Those comments have often been criticized in the years since — though Trudeau also said at the time he was willing to expedite the regulatory process, if a private sector company came forward with a project.

Hodgson said proposals for gas exports to Europe are still in early stages and “no route is mapped out for sure.”

“But any proponent who comes forward with a project that features good economics and buy-in from their province and Indigenous people, we will take a good look at,” he said.

Canada has an LNG terminal on its east coast owned by Spanish energy firm Repsol SA, but it currently imports gas for markets in eastern North America. The company explored expanding it into an export facility, but scrapped the idea in 2023 after determining the pipeline tolls would have made the gas too expensive.

Hodgson and Carney have indicated that another project is on their radar now: using the northern port of Churchill, Manitoba, to ship LNG and other commodities through Hudson Bay and the Arctic Ocean.

However, the port is small, remote and locked in by sea ice for much of the year. Upgrading it would require major investment in new infrastructure, as well as icebreakers to allow for a longer shipping season.

Hodgson told reporters in Germany this week that Churchill’s port is currently “underutilized” but represents a “tremendous opportunity.” Provincial leaders in western Canada are enthusiastic about the concept.

“There seems to be a desire on the part of Germany to buy our natural gas,” Hodgson said. “And we have a desire from proponents, a province and First Nations to develop that for German customers.”

Developing Churchill’s port could unlock exports of LNG and critical minerals, along with creating economic opportunity for Indigenous people and diversifying Canada’s trade networks, Carney told reporters during his Europe tour.

“All of those elements are going to make the country stronger, make us more resilient, make us more prosperous,” he said.


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Not unusual to see governments quietly shift policy, but an outright repudiation of what your own party was just doing months ago is, uh, uncommon. They’re saying very strong stuff here and the communicated intent for Churchill is very, very bold. Concrete action will be both necessary and very visible early on if this is to be viable.
 
Same. I like the direction, I generally believe the signalled intent, but I don’t any to see actual progress through the process towards results. Having at least some understanding of some of the processes I also accept that that takes time.
Lots of cats that need to be herded in the same direction - never an easy task - expect to see some things moving to the next step/level over the next few months, by Christmas. If not, watch out.
 
Apologies if this was already posted and I missed it. A rare rebuke by a current government of its predecessor government of the same party; this over Trudeau’s botched LNG export policy:


Carney's Energy Chief Rebukes Trudeau Over LNG Policy in Europe​

Canadian Energy Minister Tim Hodgson said his government is taking steps toward exporting natural gas to Europe, and criticized former Prime Minister Justin Trudeau for not making the same effort.

Bloomberg News
Brian Platt

(Bloomberg) — Canadian Energy Minister Tim Hodgson said his government is taking steps toward exporting natural gas to Europe, and criticized former Prime Minister Justin Trudeau for not making the same effort.
Article content

“The new Canadian federal government has made a conscious choice to re-center energy and critical minerals in how we think about not only our domestic affairs, but Canada’s place in the world,” Hodgson said in the prepared text of remarks he will deliver at the country’s embassy in Berlin.

His speech comes on the same day Mark Carney wraps up a trip through Europe that included stops in Poland, Ukraine, Germany and Latvia. The Canadian prime minister is trying to shore up relationships with European allies and work on defense and trade agreements in the face of the global tariff war launched by the US.

Hodgson’s speech promoted cooperation between Germany and Canada, including on green hydrogen and critical minerals. But it emphasized Canadian natural gas as a low-risk source of energy.

“Unlike the previous Canadian government, which closed the door to LNG exports, Prime Minister Carney’s government has opened it,” said Hodgson, a rookie politician who previously worked with Carney at Goldman Sachs Group Inc. “If the demand is here, and the infrastructure is built, Canada will deliver.”

The comments are the latest example of how Carney, despite coming from the same Liberal Party as Trudeau, has put a much stronger emphasis on conventional energy exports as a potential source of economic strength.

The idea of shipping liquefied natural gas from Canada’s east coast to European markets has lingered for years, but made little progress. After Russia invaded Ukraine in February 2022, Germany searched for replacements for Russian gas and explored options with Trudeau’s government.

When then-German Chancellor Olaf Scholz visited Canada that summer, Trudeau told reporters the business case for shipping gas to Europe has always been difficult due to the fact Canadian gas fields are mostly located in the west, far away from Atlantic Ocean ports.

Those comments have often been criticized in the years since — though Trudeau also said at the time he was willing to expedite the regulatory process, if a private sector company came forward with a project.

Hodgson said proposals for gas exports to Europe are still in early stages and “no route is mapped out for sure.”

“But any proponent who comes forward with a project that features good economics and buy-in from their province and Indigenous people, we will take a good look at,” he said.

Canada has an LNG terminal on its east coast owned by Spanish energy firm Repsol SA, but it currently imports gas for markets in eastern North America. The company explored expanding it into an export facility, but scrapped the idea in 2023 after determining the pipeline tolls would have made the gas too expensive.

Hodgson and Carney have indicated that another project is on their radar now: using the northern port of Churchill, Manitoba, to ship LNG and other commodities through Hudson Bay and the Arctic Ocean.

However, the port is small, remote and locked in by sea ice for much of the year. Upgrading it would require major investment in new infrastructure, as well as icebreakers to allow for a longer shipping season.

Hodgson told reporters in Germany this week that Churchill’s port is currently “underutilized” but represents a “tremendous opportunity.” Provincial leaders in western Canada are enthusiastic about the concept.

“There seems to be a desire on the part of Germany to buy our natural gas,” Hodgson said. “And we have a desire from proponents, a province and First Nations to develop that for German customers.”

Developing Churchill’s port could unlock exports of LNG and critical minerals, along with creating economic opportunity for Indigenous people and diversifying Canada’s trade networks, Carney told reporters during his Europe tour.

“All of those elements are going to make the country stronger, make us more resilient, make us more prosperous,” he said.


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Not unusual to see governments quietly shift policy, but an outright repudiation of what your own party was just doing months ago is, uh, uncommon. They’re saying very strong stuff here and the communicated intent for Churchill is very, very bold. Concrete action will be both necessary and very visible early on if this is to be viable.
I can see the Fed's holding up Churchill and saying, 'see, this is what can be achieved when the Federal, Provincial, Ingenious and Local communities all work together towards a common goal.'

Its a rare thing when both Provincial and Ingenious sides are on side and moving the ball downfield together. This needs to be taken advantage of and used as a positive example.
 
Not unusual to see governments quietly shift policy, but an outright repudiation of what your own party was just doing months ago is, uh, uncommon. They’re saying very strong stuff here and the communicated intent for Churchill is very, very bold. Concrete action will be both necessary and very visible early on if this is to be viable.
It is also quite clever / Machiavellian. Disavowing the Trudeau government will undercut the Opposition efforts to pin the Trudeau years on Carney.
 
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