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Doug Ford is getting a lot of value with that ad. People all over the place are looking to watch it now.

It’s also ignited a conversation about the effects of tariffs etc etc

Not sure that was his intent but from an audience distribution point of view he’s getting great value.

It aired during MLB and NFL games, got quiet a bit of reach.

But we should also note Trump waited until Friday to have a hissy fit. This wouldn't be the first, second, third, or forth time he's done something to manipulate things right before the market closes for the weekend.
 
Please spends the 3-4mins to watch this clip on CNBC - the gold standard of 'pro-business' news in the US. They are openly saying that the ad is good, its straight forward and it will ring true to many American views - and THAT is what is most likely upsetting Trump so much because so many Americans idolize Reagan and here is Reagan coming out so against tariffs.

Watched it. And I’m sure the fact that the ad was good, likely too good, irked him to no end.
 
Running ads ahead of negotiations against your trade counterpart, especially a character like Trump, is not going to lead to a good start. What a stupid idea.
Trump is the biggest most powerfully bully for at least 4.2 light years. He also behaves like a petulant child.

It should come as no surprise to anyone how he would respond to criticism, provocation, or even a colour he doesn't like.

I thought the message behind the add was great. Makes sense. Estimated $75M price tag to run the adds not so much.


At the end of the day Trump reacted exactly how anyone would come to expect he would react so people can blame the petulant child for having a tantrum or the adult who knew their action would cause the child to have a tantrum.
 
Trump is the biggest most powerfully bully for at least 4.2 light years. He also behaves like a petulant child.

It should come as no surprise to anyone how he would respond to criticism, provocation, or even a colour he doesn't like.

I thought the message behind the add was great. Makes sense. Estimated $75M price tag to run the adds not so much.


At the end of the day Trump reacted exactly how anyone would come to expect he would react so people can blame the petulant child for having a tantrum or the adult who knew their action would cause the child to have a tantrum.
Just wait until the Supreme Court strikes down his tariffs. He will go ballistic.
 
I concur. Ford and Trump are locked in a dumb-off. Not sure that having provinces trying to pull on different levers than the Feds is at all helpful
If people didnt understsnd why international agreements are solely the purview of the federal government, this is an example why. A sub-national outlier may have jeopardized a national negotiation.
 
The Reagan Foundation is getting absolutely dragged on social media this morning, people are even listening to/watching the original speech and saying it does an even better job tearing apart Trumps tariffs than the ad itself.

Highlighted portions are what was used in the ad.


If cost and time weren't a thing using the entire speech would have still likely resulted in a tantrum regardless.
 
At the end of the day Trump reacted exactly how anyone would come to expect he would react so people can blame the petulant child for having a tantrum or the adult who knew their action would cause the child to have a tantrum.
You don't negotiate with terrorists your children just because they are or will throw a fit.
 
If people didnt understsnd why international agreements are solely the purview of the federal government, this is an example why. A sub-national outlier may have jeopardized a national negotiation.
I can't help but wonder if Ford and Carney are working together on this.

I can't see that Ford didn't get the 'green light' from Carney to run the ads. They seem to be in constant conservations and are seeing each other on an almost weekly basis.

If Carney didn't want Ford to run these ads, and remember these ads started running 8 days ago, not yesterday, and Ford had already been talking about these ads 12-14 days earlier (and possibly much earlier than that as it takes time to find the ad agency, pitch the idea to the ad agency, have the ad agency prepare a handful of options, review all the options, most likely air the options to target audiences, obtain feedback from those audiences, tweak the ads based on the feedback, review and agree upon the final ad, at the same time your approaching the networks about timeslots and cost to run the ads, the networks will review the ads to ensure that it meets with criteria as acceptable and then the ads finally run), Carney would have told Ford to not run them.

These ads have been running/available for viewing the in the US for 7 days BEFORE Trump came out against them. Now, the DAY before the first game of the World Series - which will have viewing around the world - which has the ONLY Canadian team playing against the LA Dodgers (based in California, a place with a Democratic Governor that Trump hates) and these ads WILL BE AIRED during the game, Trump comes out loudly against them. Come on, Carney and Ford worked together on this and both teams (Carney and Ford) had to have gamed out the various scenarios that could happen if this ad went on the US networks.
 
What will be interesting to see is if the ad runs tonight during the World Series in the US or if Ford pulls the ad OR if the US networks are told NOT to run the ad.

Can't put the genie back in the bottle, it's white hot and viral now. Which I think was perhaps the point (to get people to listen to the full speech by a massive pillar of the GOP).
 
Can't put the genie back in the bottle, it's white hot and viral now. Which I think was perhaps the point (to get people to listen to the full speech by a massive pillar of the GOP).
Wonder if a US state did something like this in Canada if we'd consider it to be 'Foreign interference on our internal affairs'.
 
Wonder if a US state did something like this in Canada if we'd consider it to be 'Foreign interference on our internal affairs'.

Probably not. Not a State, but we let Postmedia Network devour a massive chunk of the news networks here after all (American bias and all).
 
CNN's view on the Ontario ad -


What the Ronald Reagan ad that got Trump so angry was really all about​


It wasn’t fake. It was edited. But Reagan really did spend a five-minute speech — an April 25, 1987, national radio address that the Reagan Library has published on YouTube — railing against tariffs. It was a full-throated expression of support for free and fair trade.

But Reagan was clear: He was “loath” to place trade barriers on Japan and believed high tariffs were damaging to American workers and the economy. He noted that economists widely believe that high tariffs of the Smoot-Hawley era had exacerbated the Great Depression, which he and others of his generation lived through – a painful memory that, he said, remained “deep and searing.”

The bulk of Reagan’s address – and the part the ad drew from most heavily – was his description of why advanced economies had largely abandoned tariffs as an economic tool by the time he became president: They increase domestic companies’ reliance on government intervention, they reduce competition, they kick off trade wars that lead to more tariffs, they raise prices and they ultimately lead to job losses.

The ad has run many times during high-profile events, including during the American League Championship series that featured the Toronto Blue Jays. Starting Friday night, the Ontario-based team will play in the World Series – a great source of national pride for Canadians

“That ad, it’s not a nasty ad,” Ford said. “It’s very factual. And coming from a person like Ronald Reagan, every Republican is going to identify that voice.”

“He was just the best president America has ever seen in my opinion,” Ford, a conservative politician, said.
 
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