Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

[Brad Sallows]

As a matter of pure economics, we should aspire to a high-value currency which would allow us to consume more. A low-value currency is a lazy way to be trade-competitive. Canadians ought to be able to consume more without essentially subsidizing lazy exporters.

 

[MilEME09]

Shocking I know.

I think some people get really excited when they see weakness in the PPs leadership. I understand, I was the same way at the end of JTs tenure.

He is going to have a leadership review soon.

Which goes towards the belief that we wont get an election if their own house isnt in order

 

[Altair]

As long as we don't need to buy the widgets to make the gadgets ......

CUSMA makes cheap (Mexican peso, not quality)Mexican widgets even cheaper.

CUSMA when it works properly grants Canada the best of both worlds.

 

[Altair]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/pushing-yelling-conservative-leadership-dentremont-9.6972680

Nova Scotia MP Chris d’Entremont says pushing and yelling from Conservative Party leadership "sealed the deal" on his choice to cross the floor of the House of Commons to the Liberals this week.

After d’Entremont’s musings over a possible defection were reported by Politico on Tuesday, the MP says Conservative House leader Andrew Scheer and party whip Chris Warkentin “barged” into his office, pushed his assistant aside and yelled at him about “how much of a snake” he was.

“It really pushed me to a point where it’s like, 'OK, I guess my decision is made for sure now,'” he said in an interview on CBC's Rosemary Barton Live that aired Sunday morning.

Yikes.

 

[GR66]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/pushing-yelling-conservative-leadership-dentremont-9.6972680

Yikes.

And the response from Poilievre's office is "liar, liar, pants on fire"

"Chris d’Entremont, who established himself a liar after wilfully deceiving his voters, friends and colleagues because he was upset he didn’t get his coveted deputy speaker role, is now spinning more lies after crossing the floor. He will fit in perfectly in the Liberal caucus," a spokesperson for the Office of the Leader of the Official Opposition said in a statement to CBC News.

 

[MilEME09]

And the response from Poilievre's office is "liar, liar, pants on fire"

Typically a claim like this wouldn't be made without evidence. If there is audio or video of this, that would likely spell bad news for the CPC as if proven the optics are terrible.

 

[Navy_Pete]

Typically a claim like this wouldn't be made without evidence. If there is audio or video of this, that would likely spell bad news for the CPC as if proven the optics are terrible.

Presumably there is at least two witnesses with his assistant, plus whoever else was in the area. Lot more credible of a claim then the CPC mean girls rebuttal that didn't actually address any of this. Also consistent with their tactics and complaints of harrassment leading up to and during the election.

These guys are clowns but trying to posiiton themselves as the responsible adults in the room while behaving like inept schoolyard bullies.

 

[GK .Dundas]

Which goes towards the belief that we wont get an election if their own house isnt in order

Don't count on it , that would require them to be able to anything but delusional...
And currently....

 

[PPCLI Guy]

I guess that's better for trade competitiveness. I figured the dollar being 80-90 on the USD would mean export demand might decrease slightly but domestic consumers get cheaper imports. We end up marginally less competitive ininternationally but with better domestic buying power.

Thanks for getting me to look deeper. This article would suggest you have it right.

 

[Altair]

Thanks for getting me to look deeper. This article would suggest you have it right.

In a high tariff environment where the Canadian economy needs to export even more to make up for the shortfall in exports to the USA, a 70 cent dollar works much better than a 80 cent dollar.

Put another way, tariffs make it more expensive for Americans to import Canadian goods, but a 70 cent Canadian dollar makes it cheaper.

80 cent dollar just makes whatever tariffs bite more, because instead of something that costs 70 dollars, plus tariffs, will cost 80 dollars, plus tariffs.

I'm not saying that article is wrong, but I will say 2021 did not have the Americans tariffing everything and us needing to shift our trade around internationally in 2025 on their radar.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Interesting data

Canadians React to Budget 2025: Split Views, Muddled Message, and a Test of Trust in Carney’s Leadership - Abacus Data

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abacusdata.ca

 

[PPCLI Guy]

In a high tariff environment where the Canadian economy needs to export even more to make up for the shortfall in exports to the USA, a 70 cent dollar works much better than a 80 cent dollar.

Put another way, tariffs make it more expensive for Americans to import Canadian goods, but a 70 cent Canadian dollar makes it cheaper.

80 cent dollar just makes whatever tariffs bite more, because instead of something that costs 70 dollars, plus tariffs, will cost 80 dollars, plus tariffs.

I'm not saying that article is wrong, but I will say 2021 did not have the Americans tariffing everything and us needing to shift our trade around internationally in 2025 on their radar.

Roger that. Somewhere in the addled recesses of my brain I remembered that 70-75% has always been the sweet spot, so I looked and found that article...which shows that the sweet spot is dependent on the global economy and a host of other factors.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Not sure where to place this, but congratulations to all those in Canada who made this happen. So proud of you all!

Here's a challenge, try for Polio next, I hear that its not so bad.

Canada loses measles elimination status after three decades, health agency says​

Canada has lost its measles elimination status after nearly three decades due to its failure to curb a year-long outbreak, the country’s public health agency said on Monday.

Health experts last month predicted the Pan American Health Organization would strip Canada of the status. The country has recorded more than 5,000 measles cases in nine of its 10 provinces and one northern territory.

Health experts say slipping vaccination rates in parts of the country are a harbinger of more vaccine-preventable illnesses resurgent in a population.

Canada loses measles elimination status after three decades, health agency says

Canada has lost its measles elimination status after nearly three decades due to its failure to curb a year-long outbreak, the country’s public health agency said on Monday.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[Quirky]

Not sure where to place this, but congratulations to all those in Canada who made this happen. So proud of you all!

These people you speak of don't post here.

 

[Czech_pivo]

These people you speak of don't post here.

I don't necessarily believe or think that they did. This is an issue that spans across almost all provinces/territories as the data bears out.

 

[MilEME09]

some post budget polling starting to come out, looks like the liberals are winning the information war about the budget for now

 

[Furniture]

some post budget polling starting to come out, looks like the liberals are winning the information war about the budget for now

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That's a pretty charitable way to interpret a 2% "swing" in opinion... That's within the margin of error for most polls.

It's likely more accurate to say the budget didn't change much of anything for the average voter.

 

[MilEME09]

Canada has lost its status of eliminating measles, Health Canada put out the below statement, frankly I don't think its enough anymore that Health Canada can be passive in the current information space of Anti-vax and conspiracy theories dominating social media. A more aggressive public awareness and education campaign is needed, coupled with actively debunking a lot of the misinformation being spread about this and other illnesses.

Statement from the Public Health Agency of Canada on Canada’s Measles Elimination Status

Following over 12 months of transmission across the country, PAHO confirms Canada's loss of measles elimination status. We are coordinating efforts with provinces and territories to restore the status through community engagement, strong public health systems and vaccination.

www.canada.ca

 

[QV]

Canada has lost its status of eliminating measles, Health Canada put out the below statement, frankly I don't think its enough anymore that Health Canada can be passive in the current information space of Anti-vax and conspiracy theories dominating social media. A more aggressive public awareness and education campaign is needed, coupled with actively debunking a lot of the misinformation being spread about this and other illnesses.

Statement from the Public Health Agency of Canada on Canada’s Measles Elimination Status

Following over 12 months of transmission across the country, PAHO confirms Canada's loss of measles elimination status. We are coordinating efforts with provinces and territories to restore the status through community engagement, strong public health systems and vaccination.

www.canada.ca

Direct outcome from playing loose with facts during COVID. Trust has been broken and I'm not sure how that can be fixed quickly, but labels of anti-vax and conspiracy theories isn't it.

 

[MilEME09]

Direct outcome from playing loose with facts during COVID. Trust has been broken and I'm not sure how that can be fixed quickly, but labels of anti-vax and conspiracy theories isn't it.

Saying we were loose with facts shows exactly what I mean the we lost the information war. People interviewed in the Mennonite community here calling the measles just a flu, also shows how we lost the message, you can also reference the all things Covid 19 thread for more proof of such. This requires an aggressive facts based public education campaign to deliberate debunk all false messaging