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The presence of various UXOs in the impact areas make the whole range fire management thing pretty 'unique'.
17 Oct 2026: Major fire at CFB Wainwright
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The presence of various UXOs in the impact areas make the whole range fire management thing pretty 'unique'.
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Depends on the Department. Trenton? Probably not. The big army training bases? You bet.
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Absolutely. This is one of Shilo's vehicles.
This is an older article but I expect there hasn't been any decrease in equipment.
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Absolutely. This is one of Shilo's vehicles.
This is an older article but I expect there hasn't been any decrease in equipment.
And a more recent (October 7, 2026) article about Shilo's firefighters.
The magazine, "Firefighting in Canada", that featured a Shilo rig on the cover.
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And so the first story of heroics, and self sacrifice come out. Currently critically injured medic ran into the fire several times to save comrades, until injury overcame him
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‘He ran into the fire’: Military medic critically injured saving fellow soldiers in CFB Wainwright fire | Globalnews.ca
His mother says Cpl. Liam Keane kept running into the deadly fire to save fellow soldiers until his own injuries overtook him.
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I certainly hope this and other stories are shared and celebrated despite the tragedy.And so the first story of heroics, and self sacrifice come out. Currently critically injured medic ran into the fire several times to save comrades, until injury overcame him
‘He ran into the fire’: Military medic critically injured saving fellow soldiers in CFB Wainwright fire | Globalnews.ca
His mother says Cpl. Liam Keane kept running into the deadly fire to save fellow soldiers until his own injuries overtook him.
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Sounds like it is worthy of something like the Cross of ValourAnd so the first story of heroics, and self sacrifice come out. Currently critically injured medic ran into the fire several times to save comrades, until injury overcame him
‘He ran into the fire’: Military medic critically injured saving fellow soldiers in CFB Wainwright fire | Globalnews.ca
His mother says Cpl. Liam Keane kept running into the deadly fire to save fellow soldiers until his own injuries overtook him.
‘the Cross of Valour recognizes acts of the most conspicuous courage in circumstances of extreme peril.’
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Checked in on a buddy. They were safe and doing OK, and are now helping the investigation. Was part of the team that went to flag UXOs, kit and other things left at the site. Told me it was surreal seeing all the melted and burnt gear, as well as the discards of the rescue efforts.
RCMP, and NIS were both there as well as some external fire investigation experts.
I suspect NIS doesn't have the expertise or horsepower to do this on their own. Might be joint jurisdiction as well for reasons I don't understand.
RCMP, and NIS were both there as well as some external fire investigation experts.
I suspect NIS doesn't have the expertise or horsepower to do this on their own. Might be joint jurisdiction as well for reasons I don't understand.
Probably NIS jurisdiction with RCMP assistance maybe for some stuff like forensics, fire investigators, etc. I wouldn’t be surprised if RCMP lenses some expertise for major case management; the amount of information that will be flowing into this file will be considerable, and the complexity will likely be well beyond what most NIS, through no fault of their own, will ever face. You need a really switched on file coordinator with access to and experience in the right MCM software or at least a well practiced filing system. It’s not rocket surgery, but it does require experience. I have crossed paths professionally with NIS in the investigative context, and I’m concerned that they may struggle to find adequately experienced people for the key roles here.
There will be some niche investigative expertise required on this in a few different realms. There will be expertise needed on fire behaviour, on CAF range safety, on occupational health and safety generally, and no doubt on other things that donmt come immediately to mind. Managing an investigation of this scale is taxing and requires a skilled command triangle of team commander, primary investigator, and file coordinator. While I’m not suggesting any particular outcome by this, they will certainly need to operate on the possibility that criminal negligence causing death is in play, and conduct the investigation accordingly.
I don’t envy anyone having to work this.
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For the record, the latest briefing & some coverage resulting from it.
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Military Officials Provide Update on CFB Wainwright Fire
General Jennie Carignan (Chief of the Defence Staff), Major-General Wade Rutland, and Brigadier-General Vanessa Hanrahan hold a news conference in Edmonton to provide an update on the October 17 fire at Canadian Forces Base Wainwright. They are joined by Sayeh Zielke, interim CEO of Acute Care...
CFB Wainwright Fire Began on Grenade Launcher Range
CFB Wainwright fire started on an Automatic Grenade Launcher range, says Provost Marshal; 27 CAF members remain in hospital and 12 released.
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What we know and don’t know about the deadly fire at CFB Wainwright
EDMONTON — Military officials provided an update Thursday on the investigation into the deadly fire at CFB Wainwright earlier this month. Officials say four soldiers were killed and dozens more were injured when a fire swept over the base on Oct. 17. O...
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CFB Wainwright fire began on automatic grenade launcher range that crews could not reach: official
The investigation into a deadly fire at an Alberta military base first began on an automatic grenade launcher range during routine exercises, officials say.
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Not going to speculate on the CAF investigation process or SME's. Have some very good guesses who are involved though.
Will say for major community impacts and/or fatality fires in Alberta it's not uncommon to not only investigation the fire origin and cause but also bring in a second, totally independent team, and run a seperate investigation. If both are pointing at the same location/cause you have a much more valid defense as opposed to single investigation. Doesn't always occur but for context some of the major fires folks might know just figuring out the origin area might take over a month of field time.
In the case of Wainwright the fire location has been reported in public media as a known origin so this work may not be as valid. Fire Behaviour Analysis (FBAN) work to reverse engineer events may be more important but that's a subject I don't play in professionally.
Will say for major community impacts and/or fatality fires in Alberta it's not uncommon to not only investigation the fire origin and cause but also bring in a second, totally independent team, and run a seperate investigation. If both are pointing at the same location/cause you have a much more valid defense as opposed to single investigation. Doesn't always occur but for context some of the major fires folks might know just figuring out the origin area might take over a month of field time.
In the case of Wainwright the fire location has been reported in public media as a known origin so this work may not be as valid. Fire Behaviour Analysis (FBAN) work to reverse engineer events may be more important but that's a subject I don't play in professionally.
