Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

[Eaglelord17]

There was a married couple who worked at the A&W across the street from me about 4 years ago, from India

They both worked at India's largest cancer hospital prior to moving to Canada. She was a nurse practioner, and I believe he was a nurse.

Each had to pay an exorbitant amount of money up front to whatever professional association governs nursing qualifications here in Alberta, and each had to wait between 8 to 14 months just to have their qualifications confirmed

(I would have thought an e-mail to the hospital in India's HR department would have confirmed or denied the couple's previous employment/qualifications within a matter of days at most. And certainly wouldn't cost almost a grand to do.)



The protectionist demeanor of certain professional associations isn't always a benefit to us...

I know several people who have over a decade experience as millwrights who the college of trades (or whatever they call themselves today) refuse to allow to write their red seal for.

I have met a former Russian brain surgeon who was working as a health inspector because it was the quickest way to monetize their knowledge (4 years of university instead of going through the whole medical process from scratch).

Our red tape is our own worst enemy. It is great once certified but it isn’t a true measure of quality, more a measure that you somehow managed go get through our flawed system. If it was about quality we wouldn’t have a much more reasonable and speedy test to verify the quality. Instead we punish by process and attempt to prevent anyone who is a ‘outsider’ from breaking in.

 

[ArmyRick]

Final video I post tonight (promise), an excellent video on Canadian politics.

 

[Altair]

Well if we build Gripens, then I see us buying the T7 redhawk from saab/Boeing and building it here too

While I know nothing has been decided yet, it would fit with Carney's pivot away from the USA.

Again, it's just the perfect storm. The USA goes full isolationist just as Sweden joins NATO and needs a strategic partner.

Granted, I didn't see us being a branch plant for Sweden, but being the branch plant of Sweden would be much better than being a branch plant of America because America operates under the illusion that they don't need Canada.

Sweden knows that it would need Canada if it goes down this path.

 

[Czech_pivo]

While I know nothing has been decided yet, it would fit with Carney's pivot away from the USA.

Again, it's just the perfect storm. The USA goes full isolationist just as Sweden joins NATO and needs a strategic partner.

Granted, I didn't see us being a branch plant for Sweden, but being the branch plant of Sweden would be much better than being a branch plant of America because America operates under the illusion that they don't need Canada.

Sweden knows that it would need Canada if it goes down this path.

I can imagine that we’ve got a huge amount of the raw resources needed to create a fighter plane. Supply lines for aluminum, nickel, tungsten, graphite, copper,
etc etc etc are all here already.

 

[Brad Sallows]

who says its a one off? SAAB doesn't strike me as a company that would let a factory go idle, they already are working on the Gripen replacement, and other programs, my guess is this helps long term viability of their products

Is there a back-logged queue of international customers?

Arms and armaments aren't really a "push" endeavour that can afford to trust in "supply creates its own demand", not least because of the costs and the inevitable "national interests" that colour military procurement.

 

[Altair]

I can imagine that we’ve got a huge amount of the raw resources needed to create a fighter plane. Supply lines for aluminum, nickel, tungsten, graphite, copper,
etc etc etc are all here already.

Sweden wouldn't be doing this just to sell a plane.

They did this before with Brazil. What does Brazil have? Embraer. So there is a track record here. If a nation has the industrial base, the resources and needs a fighter jet, Sweden will play ball.

Thats all to say, Sweden wouldn't be offering this just to make a sale. They are doing this because they see value in what we can bring to the table.

The yanks used to and used to have preferencial treatment from us, but those days are over.

 

[IKnowNothing]

@CBH99 I want to do you the justice of a typed response, not a rushed poclet screen one, that will have to wait until tomorrow.

Re- hypothetical Saab Canada. Step 1 is Gripen and Global Eye. Then:

GBAD project- MSHORAD conversions to domestic chassis. RBS 70 production, Nimbrix Production.

IFM Project- Mapams and Thor mortar rounds, BONUS and excalibur 155 rounds

CDC project- a prefered vendor to fill a host of capability gaps

Does our section level anti armor capability get boost if we swing for NLAW or CG84 production?

Not for a second do I think that all would/will happen. But its not hard to see one or more in addition to the planes

 

[YZT580]

It is almost as though our extremely protectionist professional associations and the like prevent people from working in their fields by design.

They intentionally make it as difficult as possible to certify someone other than by their very difficult to get into ‘apprenticeship’ programs.

Doctors, Red Seal trades, hair dressers, etc. all make it as difficult as possible to certify someone. If you were said professional in a other country and can’t work/do your job/career in this country why would you stay when someone else will?

forget the international credits, nurses from B.C. are not qualified to work in Ontario unless they re-certify. The same applies to many other professional groups

 

[YZT580]

Sweden is a country of 10.7m people.

Their industrial base is only so large.

Imagine you're Sweden and you get a country 4 times your size and a already experienced manufacturing base, with a aerospace industry and pipeline willing to work with you?

no pipelines

 

[Altair]

no pipelines

Pipeline of trained and skilled aerospace workers.

Or in other words, not needing to sprout a new aerospace industry out of thin air in a country that doesn't have one.

 

[Altair]

A full court press from Sweden. King, Queen, deputy Prime minister.

 

[lenaitch]

There was a married couple who worked at the A&W across the street from me about 4 years ago, from India

They both worked at India's largest cancer hospital prior to moving to Canada. She was a nurse practioner, and I believe he was a nurse.

Each had to pay an exorbitant amount of money up front to whatever professional association governs nursing qualifications here in Alberta, and each had to wait between 8 to 14 months just to have their qualifications confirmed

(I would have thought an e-mail to the hospital in India's HR department would have confirmed or denied the couple's previous employment/qualifications within a matter of days at most. And certainly wouldn't cost almost a grand to do.)



The protectionist demeanor of certain professional associations isn't always a benefit to us...

When I did background investigations for gaming licences, the number of foreign-born skilled professionals signing up to be a low wage table dealer was appalling. Our turf-protecting barriers are too high, but the folks who process visa applications need to realistically warn these applicants ahead of time.

Surely, the government must be able to create a list of foreign professional schools that have standards at least near to ours. A medical degree from U Tel Aviv or U Edinburgh should be known to have more value than one from U Upper Rubber Bootistan.

 

[YZT580]

Pipeline of trained and skilled aerospace workers.

Or in other words, not needing to sprout a new aerospace industry out of thin air in a country that doesn't have one.

gosh, darn, I misunderstood. Sorry

 

[Altair]

gosh, darn, I misunderstood. Sorry

No worries.

I could have phrased it better.

 

[mariomike]

forget the international credits, nurses from B.C. are not qualified to work in Ontario unless they re-certify. The same applies to many other professional groups

If you are currently certified as a paramedic in a province other than Ontario but you would like to achieve labour mobility so you may become a paramedic certified to work in Ontario, you must do the following:

Visit the Canadian Organization of Paramedic Regulators (COPR) which is an agreed upon comparator tool for use by Canadian paramedic practitioners. The tool is a guide to help you assess gaps that occur from province to province. Licensure of paramedics is the responsibility and domain of the various provincial regulatory bodies. Consult the provincial regulators for final decisions regarding practice.
Visit the Ontario Ministry of Health - Paramedic Equivalency Processto present your experience and qualifications on a case-by-case basis, to determine eligibility to challenge the AEMCA Theory Examination. The Equivalency Process for all applicants involves two phases - validation of educational and work experience, and qualifying evaluations.
Follow the Labour Mobility process as defined by the Ontario Ministry of Health (contact [email protected] if you require specific information on the Labour Mobility process).
Apply to a Paramedic Service for employment.
Upon successful employment you must become certified to perform specific Delegated Medical Acts under the license of an Ontario Base Hospital Medical Director.

 

[HavokFour]

The visit went well, overall.

Canada, Sweden sign strategic partnership as royal couple visits Ottawa - National | Globalnews.ca

King Carl XVI Gustaf, Sweden's longest reigning monarch, and Queen Silvia are visiting Ottawa and Montreal for their first trip to Canada since 2006.

globalnews.ca

Prime Minister Carney welcomes Their Majesties King Carl XVI Gustaf and Queen Silvia of Sweden to Canada

Today, the Prime Minister, Mark Carney, welcomed Their Majesties King Carl XVI Gustaf and Queen Silvia of Sweden in Ottawa. The State Visit included Sweden’s Deputy Prime Minister, Ebba Busch, and the largest-ever business delegation to accompany a Swedish State Visit to Canada. The visit...

www.pm.gc.ca

Joint statement by Prime Minister Carney and Prime Minister Kristersson

We are like-minded Arctic nations with shared interests in the North Atlantic and the Arctic region, and who recognise the vital contributions and rights of Indigenous Peoples in the Arctic in keeping with the UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples and international law.

www.pm.gc.ca

 

[Altair]

The visit went well, overall.

Canada, Sweden sign strategic partnership as royal couple visits Ottawa - National | Globalnews.ca

King Carl XVI Gustaf, Sweden's longest reigning monarch, and Queen Silvia are visiting Ottawa and Montreal for their first trip to Canada since 2006.

globalnews.ca

Prime Minister Carney welcomes Their Majesties King Carl XVI Gustaf and Queen Silvia of Sweden to Canada

Today, the Prime Minister, Mark Carney, welcomed Their Majesties King Carl XVI Gustaf and Queen Silvia of Sweden in Ottawa. The State Visit included Sweden’s Deputy Prime Minister, Ebba Busch, and the largest-ever business delegation to accompany a Swedish State Visit to Canada. The visit...

www.pm.gc.ca

Joint statement by Prime Minister Carney and Prime Minister Kristersson

We are like-minded Arctic nations with shared interests in the North Atlantic and the Arctic region, and who recognise the vital contributions and rights of Indigenous Peoples in the Arctic in keeping with the UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples and international law.

www.pm.gc.ca

Day 1 of 3.

I knew the Swedes were efficient, but damn.

Just kidding, I know the behind the scenes people do most of the legwork before anyone even boards a plane, but still.

 

[HavokFour]

and they will need more than 2 heavy icebreakers so Davies (Quebec vote) and Seaspan (BC support) will be extremely busy

Coincidentally, ICE Pact showing signs of life.

Canada, U.S., Finland take step forward on ICE Pact plan to build icebreakers

Canada, the United States and Finland took a step toward building new icebreakers despite the breakdown in trade talks between Ottawa and the Trump administration.

www.ctvnews.ca