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New Canadian Shipbuilding Strategy

  • Thread starter Thread starter GAP
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If I was to create three naval stations then I would consider.
  • St. John’s
  • Prince Rupert
  • Québec City / Lévis

    After which I would consider
  • Iqaluit
  • Churchill
 
Prince Rupert has some frontage where the RCN could build a dock. However the land is only a couple of hundred metres wide, has a active rail line through it and is heavily contaminated. CN will be happy to sell/lease at heavy price no doubt.

There was a ammunition resupply site at Port Edwards/Watson Island in WWII, now a propane terminal. The entrance is narrow but deep enough. The best place is on the same island as the airport, there be enough room for a couple of ships, small support base and some ammunition bunkers.

All bunkering at PR is done either from barge or truck. There is one small fuel station for smaller vessels.
 
Grass aint always greener in national shipbuilding projects. The USN just killed the Constellation-class. Maybe we can build them some Rivers for a fee of course ;)

Better yet - we should be over there ASAP recruiting as many skilled tradespeople as possible. This should be priority 1.


EDIT: I particularly like this quote:

“Sometimes, you’re just better off designing a new ship,” Navy’s former top acquisition executive Nickolas Guertin said at a conference in February. “Turns out modifying someone else’s design is a lot harder than it seems.”
 
They're part of DND now, so, not really....we're all 'one big happy family' now, right?
;-)

Could the Coast Guard be made rsponsible for training sailors while the navy concentrates on converting those sailors into warfighters?
 
Better yet - we should be over there ASAP recruiting as many skilled tradespeople as possible. This should be priority 1.


EDIT: I particularly like this quote:

“Sometimes, you’re just better off designing a new ship,” Navy’s former top acquisition executive Nickolas Guertin said at a conference in February. “Turns out modifying someone else’s design is a lot harder than it seems.”
Yes I'm sure they'll be falling over themselves to defect to Canada......
 
Yes I'm sure they'll be falling over themselves to defect to Canada......
You don’t know until you try.
Maybe a some key people are from Europe on work visa’s and would be sent home since the project has been cancelled and offering them a job in Halifax or Vancouver might be of interest.
Why assume that 0 people would be not interested before even trying?
This country is doomed if the go to answer for anything outside the box is always ‘no.’
 
First of all, the coast guard would have to learn how the Navy performs many of its seamanship tasks, along with battle damage control procedures etc. The Navy already has that organized, and it functions very well. I wouldn’t mess with that as handing it to the Coast Guard accomplishes very little that doesn’t already exist and functions quite well.

Second edit: are we even sure the RCN is welcoming to having a second maritime fleet within DND?
 
First of all, the coast guard would have to learn how the Navy performs many of its seamanship tasks, along with battle damage control procedures etc. The Navy already has that organized, and it functions very well. I wouldn’t mess with that as handing it to the Coast Guard accomplishes very little that doesn’t already exist and functions quite well.

Second edit: are we even sure the RCN is welcoming to having a second maritime fleet within DND?

Understood.

There is a Navy way.
There is a Coast Guard way.
 
I have no idea what the Coast Guard does for training. Colin does. It seems to be much different in approach but perhaps even in theory since the Coast Guard doesn’t necessarily plan on being torpedoed or struck by missiles, or both at the same time, while making plans to maneuver the ship, launch counter strikes and get back underway at all costs. Maybe, but I doubt it.
 
You don’t know until you try.
Maybe a some key people are from Europe on work visa’s and would be sent home since the project has been cancelled and offering them a job in Halifax or Vancouver might be of interest.
Why assume that 0 people would be not interested before even trying?
This country is doomed if the go to answer for anything outside the box is always ‘no.’
This country is doomed the way its going anyways. Elbows up!
 
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