2025 U.S. - Venezuela conflict
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Can you even go to "formal" war with a "narco terrorist state"?
MilEME09
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Given that Venezuela is a recognized country? Yes
Who owned is? Where was it flagged? Was it inside or outside of the 12nm limit of territorial waters? Was it under some legal sanctions regime? Etc etc.
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But who's going to do anything about it? If a Security Council resolution condemning the action or proposing "anything" was introduced the USA would veto it. It would be exactly the same reaction as when Russia invaded Ukraine. Well, not quite the same. Ukraine, thanks to Russian incompetence, was able to prevent the Russians from overrunning their country and thanks to support (limited though it has been at times) from many they have continued to defend. Who would to do the same for Venezuela?
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I'm speaking from the American perspective.
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The War Zone is reporting that six Ef-18G Growler EW aircraft have arrived in Puerto Rico. The article also has information on the sized tanker:
www.twz.com
EA-18G Growlers Deploying To Puerto Rico An Indicator Of What's To Come (Updated)
The Growlers are not a standard show of force, with the jets offering capabilities that would be key in any future strikes in the region.
www.twz.com
The ship is being reported as the Guyana-flagged MT Skipper. US Treasury Department’a Office of Foreign Assec Control sanctioned it a couple years ago, purportedly for moving Iranian oil. I’ve seen reports that a warrant of seizure was issued by federal court a couple weeks ago.
Obviously the decision to seize this particular ship at this particular time and place is a very deliberate choice. It’s another incremental escalation against Maduro, shielded under a pretty widely accepted sanctions regime.
Obviously the decision to seize this particular ship at this particular time and place is a very deliberate choice. It’s another incremental escalation against Maduro, shielded under a pretty widely accepted sanctions regime.
There aren’t many reasons to deploy that many electronic attack aircraft…The War Zone is reporting that six Ef-18G Growler EW aircraft have arrived in Puerto Rico. The article also has information on the sized tanker:
EA-18G Growlers Deploying To Puerto Rico An Indicator Of What's To Come (Updated)
The Growlers are not a standard show of force, with the jets offering capabilities that would be key in any future strikes in the region.
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Guardian article on the seizure of the tanker, including photos of the raiding party descending from MH-60 helicopter:
www.theguardian.com
US forces seize oil tanker off Venezuela coast
Grainy footage uploaded to X by the attorney general shows US forces landing on the helicopter – in a major escalation of Trump’s pressure campaign
www.theguardian.com
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And here at The Hill is the actual video:
daftandbarmy
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Nice sanctioned oil tanker you have there...
www.theguardian.com
US attorney general posts footage of oil tanker seizure off coast of Venezuela – live updates
Pam Bondi says tanker had been sanctioned by the US ‘for multiple years’ as Trump administration escalates pressure campaign against Nicolás Maduro
www.theguardian.com
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For a guy who wants a nobel peace prize he is doing everything he can to prevent that from happening.
Maria Machado is a Venezuelan opposition leader, and has been in hiding and subject to a travel ban. Looks like someone snuck her out- she’s just arrived in Oslo, hours after she was awarded, in absentia, the Nobel Peace Prize. I’ve read speculation that the F/A-18s-up-the-nose flight yesterday may have been a distraction for an exfil. In any case, she’s out of Venezuela and free. Another piece on the chess board. This could give the U.S. a plausible leader to sub in as part of a regime change.
www.reuters.com
Venezuela's Machado defies travel ban, arrives in Oslo to claim Nobel Peace Prize
After more than a year mostly spent in hiding and in defiance of a decade-long travel ban, Venezuelan opposition leader Maria Corina Machado arrived in Norway on Thursday, hours after a ceremony to award her the Nobel Peace Prize.
www.reuters.com
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The U.S. has seized an oil tanker off the coast of Venezuela. Not clear which ship, where precisely, or the legal grounds.
US seizes oil tanker off coast of Venezuela, officials say
The U.S. has seized an oil tanker off the coast of Venezuela, three officials told Reuters on Wednesday, a move that raised oil prices and is likely to further inflame tensions between Washington and Caracas.
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With Congressional approval….ummmm….
