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Indirect Fires Modernization Project - C3/M777 Replacement

markppcli said:
The solution to that is buying more K9s and simulators not buying something gun to train on that has little to no carry over for what we intend to fight with.
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I have zero faith that they will get to giving the Reserves useful stuff before the money taps get shutoff. Plus if they bought K9's for the Reserves, they would be broken down for most of their lives as there will not be enough maintainers and many will have to sit outside as they won't fit into many of the armouries.
Believe me I deeply hope I am wrong and well supported modern equipment flows to the Reserves. But my gut says I am right. Plus you don't have a lot of time before the current fleet says "We are done".
 
Colin Parkinson said:
I have zero faith that they will get to giving the Reserves useful stuff before the money taps get shutoff. Plus if they bought K9's for the Reserves, they would be broken down for most of their lives as there will not be enough maintainers and many will have to sit outside as they won't fit into many of the armouries.
Believe me I deeply hope I am wrong and well supported modern equipment flows to the Reserves. But my gut says I am right. Plus you don't have a lot of time before the current fleet says "We are done".
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They could install simulators in the Armories and base the actual K9s at the training centers. Hire the Techs to maintain them there. On a long stretch you could outsource most of the maintenance to local Civi companies. Ya someone is going to say they need security clearance and also know how to fix intricate optical electrical specialized systems. The civi world has more security cleared people then the Military, the equipment can be worked on at the local base if required. There are many more experienced trained people in the civi field who can work on intricate systems then in the military.
There are viable workable solutions if people stop saying "can't", (all that means is "won't)
 
childs56 said:
They could install simulators in the Armories and base the actual K9s at the training centers. Hire the Techs to maintain them there. On a long stretch you could outsource most of the maintenance to local Civi companies. Ya someone is going to say they need security clearance and also know how to fix intricate optical electrical specialized systems. The civi world has more security cleared people then the Military, the equipment can be worked on at the local base if required. There are many more experienced trained people in the civi field who can work on intricate systems then in the military.
There are viable workable solutions if people stop saying "can't", (all that means is "won't)
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110%

The ARNG isn't anymore competent than the CA PRes, there is just funding and a will to do it.
 
Colin Parkinson said:
I have zero faith that they will get to giving the Reserves useful stuff before the money taps get shutoff. Plus if they bought K9's for the Reserves, they would be broken down for most of their lives as there will not be enough maintainers and many will have to sit outside as they won't fit into many of the armouries.
Believe me I deeply hope I am wrong and well supported modern equipment flows to the Reserves. But my gut says I am right. Plus you don't have a lot of time before the current fleet says "We are done".
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If it were me I wouldn't give the reserves any warfighting equipment.

I would pump any available capital into war stocks and maintaining them.

The regs and reserves both would draw from warstocks for training and deployment. Appropriate equipment would be drawn for the environment.

You don't need pride of ownership. You just need to enforce returning kit to stores in the condition you drew it.

You can keep LG1s, L119s, M777s, K9s and RCH/AGMs on hand in good condition and train for the situation of the day.
 
childs56 said:
They could install simulators in the Armories and base the actual K9s at the training centers. Hire the Techs to maintain them there. On a long stretch you could outsource most of the maintenance to local Civi companies. Ya someone is going to say they need security clearance and also know how to fix intricate optical electrical specialized systems. The civi world has more security cleared people then the Military, the equipment can be worked on at the local base if required. There are many more experienced trained people in the civi field who can work on intricate systems then in the military.
There are viable workable solutions if people stop saying "can't", (all that means is "won't)
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The Army Reserve needs to lose a lot of its history and embrace the future instead.

Units need to have training areas within reasonable proximity. There needs to be a force structure designed for outputs, not perpétuation of fictional tales of heroism from the world wars. There needs to be institutional commitment to members, and member commitment to the institution.
 
dapaterson said:
Or invest in sustainment for the Army Reserve.
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Well when we are being told we will do all first line and limited second line. They better put the money and training where their mouth is or its all going to fall apart real quick
 
The CAF is "infantry-centred". That means focusing on man-power and equipping the man.

Ukraine is demonstrating that the world has moved on. With automation and drones and withdrawing men from the field everyone is now a gunner.

Gunners man the equipment.

1st question

Given the current situation what equipment do I need?

2nd question

Who is available to operate the equipment?
 
dapaterson said:
The Army Reserve needs to lose a lot of its history and embrace the future instead.
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The Regular Force should also then.
dapaterson said:
Units need to have training areas within reasonable proximity.
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That's a large problem for units on the West Coast or northern parts of the provinces.
How about the we stand up a Air reserve with Helicopters and Hercs who can fly to local Airports, Pickup the units and deliver them to the training areas. You can male it as tactical or as non tactical as you want. Arrive to the training area a hour or three later. Do your training and fly them home at the end of the training.
dapaterson said:
There needs to be a force structure designed for outputs, not perpétuation of fictional tales of heroism from the world wars.
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Loose history and you loose purpose.
dapaterson said:
There needs to be institutional commitment to members, and member commitment to the institution.
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I agree, not much commitment level from the employer, there is a lack of commitment from the workers.
Buy the equipment, allocate the training money, spend the money and they will come.
 
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