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Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

It turns out that Canada, like every other Nation, is doing what it must to protect and advance its interests. Pragmatically. And seeing the world as it is, rather than as we wish it was.

Speaking of which... ka ching....


Energy-hungry India tells Carney 'we are willing to buy whatever Canada is offering'

India needs oil, natural gas and uranium — and fast, high commissioner says on eve of PM's visit

Prime Minister Mark Carney met with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi during the G20 summit in South Africa in November, after inviting him to the G7 in Alberta last spring. The two will now meet on Indian soil. (Sean Kilpatrick/The Canadian Press)

India wants to buy any energy product it can from Canada and its officials are urging the federal government to streamline approvals for various projects so it can tap into new supplies to feed a rapidly growing country with relatively few natural resources of its own.

That's the message India's high commissioner to Canada, Dinesh Patnaik, relayed in an interview with CBC News before Prime Minister Mark Carney left for a five-day visit to the country. It's a trip that will be laser-focused on cutting new business deals and getting negotiations for a free trade agreement underway as part of a push to diversify from the American market.

"On energy, there is an appetite which even Canada cannot fulfill and we are willing to buy whatever Canada is offering on crude, on LPG, on LNG," Patnaik said, referring to oil and gas products.


 
Speaking of which... ka ching....


Energy-hungry India tells Carney 'we are willing to buy whatever Canada is offering'

India needs oil, natural gas and uranium — and fast, high commissioner says on eve of PM's visit

Prime Minister Mark Carney met with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi during the G20 summit in South Africa in November, after inviting him to the G7 in Alberta last spring. The two will now meet on Indian soil. (Sean Kilpatrick/The Canadian Press)

India wants to buy any energy product it can from Canada and its officials are urging the federal government to streamline approvals for various projects so it can tap into new supplies to feed a rapidly growing country with relatively few natural resources of its own.

That's the message India's high commissioner to Canada, Dinesh Patnaik, relayed in an interview with CBC News before Prime Minister Mark Carney left for a five-day visit to the country. It's a trip that will be laser-focused on cutting new business deals and getting negotiations for a free trade agreement underway as part of a push to diversify from the American market.

"On energy, there is an appetite which even Canada cannot fulfill and we are willing to buy whatever Canada is offering on crude, on LPG, on LNG," Patnaik said, referring to oil and gas products.


Great. Let’s dig it up and sell it to ‘em.
 
I probably would too minus China going from public enemy #1 to besties after a few handshakes and smiles.

I'd also demand my MP push for an investigation into the circles him and his spouse ran in, and whose shoulders they rubbed with.
What about normalizing trade to pre-Meng Wanzhou levels makes them besties? Especially when our largest customer, who stabbed us in the back in said case, has decided to self-immolate?
 
I get the hostility towards China, as they go beyond trying to just control former Chinese citizens living abroad, and putting down dissent/criticism.
India is a more interesting case. Why are we really mad at them? Because they assassinated what they deemed a threat on Cdn soil and got caught right? I'm sure the US, Israel, and Russia have done the same, and have just done it better and quieter. Hell Israel loves using Canadian passports to get in and out of places on kill missions.

All that to say is as a sovereign nation, we should be exploiting our trade advantages whenever and wherever we can.
 
India is a more interesting case. Why are we really mad at them? Because they assassinated what they deemed a threat on Cdn soil and got caught right?
"Threat" is subjective here. They murdered an activist.

Canadian law-enforcement (including RCMP) have warned about other cases of Sikh activists being intimidated and threatened. In some cases the threats were credible enough where they received official "duty to warn" notices from police.

RCMP and other Canadian agencies linked violent activity by organized crime groups, notably the Bishnoi gang, to Indian (government) interests. Those include extortion, shootings, murder-for-hire, and other criminal violence. [The Bishnoi gang being designated a terrorist entity here because of it's involvement in intimidation and crime]. Authorities have suggested the gang is acting on behalf of the Indian government in targeting certain individuals and communities.


Foreign interference and coercion is an issue too where establish sources said Indian diplomats and agents are using clandestine activities to collect information on Canada's South Asian community. Recall our current government bent over backwards going out of their way to try and wave off any investigation and action into foreign interference.


captloadie said:
All that to say is as a sovereign nation, we should be exploiting our trade advantages whenever and wherever we can.

We can engage with India in trade without chalking their behavior up to everyone does it, big deal. The Liberal government is saying India's garbage behavior is all cleaned up, I'd like to see the receipts on that. I prefer not to see Canada turned into a proxy battleground for all these other countries drama, or give them a bunch of in-roads to our Parliament.
 
Does this mean we are finally taking India’s concerns seriously after 40 years of politely telling them to pound sand?

It would be nice if our government took Beijing’s threat to our national security seriously.
 
The US and China are the two largest economies in the World. Short of open war breaking out of course we're going to do business with them...just as they do business with each other. Does that mean we're "besties"? No. Does it mean that we ignore the things they do that are in their self interest that conflicts with our own self interest? Again, No.

We should trade with them but at the same time we should seek to diversify to protect ourselves from excessive risk if relations turn worse. We should also make domestic policy decisions to protect our own strategic interests/industries and limit as much as possible any foreign interference at home.

As far as India goes, absolutely they (and the Chinese among others) have been caught doing things on Canadian soil that are unacceptable to Canadians. The main problem that I see is that PM JT chose to out India in the murder in the most public way possible. This after the debacle that was PM JT's trip to India and the soft support of Sikh separatists in Canada. He embarrassed Modi publicly when if overall relations were somewhat better things could have been handled less in public and more behind closed doors. There would have been diplomats sent home, trade negotiations stalled, visits cancelled and strong words in private without having to go nuclear and basically calling another head of state a murderer.
 
The US and China are the two largest economies in the World. Short of open war breaking out of course we're going to do business with them...just as they do business with each other. Does that mean we're "besties"? No. Does it mean that we ignore the things they do that are in their self interest that conflicts with our own self interest? Again, No.

We should trade with them but at the same time we should seek to diversify to protect ourselves from excessive risk if relations turn worse. We should also make domestic policy decisions to protect our own strategic interests/industries and limit as much as possible any foreign interference at home.

As far as India goes, absolutely they (and the Chinese among others) have been caught doing things on Canadian soil that are unacceptable to Canadians. The main problem that I see is that PM JT chose to out India in the murder in the most public way possible. This after the debacle that was PM JT's trip to India and the soft support of Sikh separatists in Canada. He embarrassed Modi publicly when if overall relations were somewhat better things could have been handled less in public and more behind closed doors. There would have been diplomats sent home, trade negotiations stalled, visits cancelled and strong words in private without having to go nuclear and basically calling another head of state a murderer.
true but we don't have to allow them to buy "us". Our products certainly but not the resources behind them
 
"Threat" is subjective here. They murdered an activist.

Canadian law-enforcement (including RCMP) have warned about other cases of Sikh activists being intimidated and threatened. In some cases the threats were credible enough where they received official "duty to warn" notices from police.

RCMP and other Canadian agencies linked violent activity by organized crime groups, notably the Bishnoi gang, to Indian (government) interests. Those include extortion, shootings, murder-for-hire, and other criminal violence. [The Bishnoi gang being designated a terrorist entity here because of it's involvement in intimidation and crime]. Authorities have suggested the gang is acting on behalf of the Indian government in targeting certain individuals and communities.


Foreign interference and coercion is an issue too where establish sources said Indian diplomats and agents are using clandestine activities to collect information on Canada's South Asian community. Recall our current government bent over backwards going out of their way to try and wave off any investigation and action into foreign interference.




We can engage with India in trade without chalking their behavior up to everyone does it, big deal. The Liberal government is saying India's garbage behavior is all cleaned up, I'd like to see the receipts on that. I prefer not to see Canada turned into a proxy battleground for all these other countries drama, or give them a bunch of in-roads to our Parliament.
Was he an 'activist' or a 'separatist'?

One person's Freedom Fighter (activist) is another person's Terrorist (separatist).
 
Does this mean we are finally taking India’s concerns seriously after 40 years of politely telling them to pound sand?
No. The government is signaling there isn't a concern of violence anymore.

It's nice to see some MPs on both sides of the isle calling bullshit.

Was he an 'activist' or a 'separatist'?

One person's Freedom Fighter (activist) is another person's Terrorist (separatist).

What if the US ordered a Canadian be gunned down for being a threat to the US (vocally anti-Trump)
 
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