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Iran Super Thread- Merged

Speaking of drones

www.reuters.com

Five US Air Force refueling planes hit in Iranian strike on Saudi Arabia, WSJ reports

Five U.S. Air Force refueling planes were struck and ‌damaged on the ground at Prince Sultan air base in Saudi Arabia, the Wall ⁠Street Journal reported on Friday, citing two U.S. officials.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com

Looks like that's now potentially 7 refuellers out of battle today, although let's see what additional information follows.
 
brihard said:
Wasn’t it just days ago the U.S. got cranky and told Israel to rein in attacks on Iran’s oil infrastructure due to the macroeconomic impacts? Now he’s threatening to wipe out the civilian oil infrastructure on Kharg Island? Make this make sense for me please.
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I think they believe they'll have leverage over the regime if they get the Island.

The problem, however, is that they risk creating an economic crisis as oil prices moon. And if I'm Iran, I lean into this hard by going after everything in the Strait and going after the Saudi oilfields and Qatar's gas fields. The smart play for the regime is to escalate hard and make the oil shock as painful as they can.

But I guess it's the only play the Administration has left. There is no real way to force the regime to stop the denial operation at the Strait. Good luck to the USN and USMC I guess.

Good primer:

 
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Oldgateboatdriver said:
"No quarter" during military conflict, as far as I understand, implies that combatants would not be taken prisoner, but executed.

I would assume most people agree this is illegal?


You would be correct.
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That's why he fired all the lawyers. And the folks who do Collateral Damage Estimates and develop CDE methodology, ... Against the the recommendation of those woke generals (the Joint Chiefs and Combatant Commanders).

 
ytz said:
I think they believe they'll have leverage over the regime if they get the Island.

The problem, however, is that they risk creating an economic crisis as oil prices moon. And if I'm Iran, I lean into this hard by going after everything in the Strait and going after the Saudi oilfields and Qatar's gas fields. The smart play for the regime is to escalate hard and make the oil shock as painful as they can.

But I guess it's the only play the Administration has left. There is no real way to force the regime to stop the denial operation at the Strait. Good luck to the USN and USMC I guess. Iranians decide to mine or destroy the the Kharg island oil installations…?
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If the Iranians decide to mine the oil facilities at Kharg with a few to destroying them if the marines land things could become interesting.
 
Take out the electrical substations and that will make sabotage a bit harder. Once they secured the Island, perhaps hand it over to a coalition of Gulf State troops to hold, freeing up US forces for potentiel landing at Qeshm Island.
 
Colin Parkinson said:
Take out the electrical substations and that will make sabotage a bit harder. Once they secured the Island, perhaps hand it over to a coalition of Gulf State troops to hold, freeing up US forces for potentiel landing at Qeshm Island.
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U.S. troops on the island could be fairly exposed.
 
Guess we'll soon see how flattened Kharg is. Outside of the oil facility there really isn't much else on the island other than dirt, and I don't believe the IRGC would handily keep all the military stuff clearly separated.
 
Not sure if it’s related to what’s going on right now in Iran but I’m here in Toulouse waiting for my train to Montpellier and there are two groups of 5 armed soldiers patrolling the station.
They walk 2 abreast, spaced apart, a lone fellow walking center and then two abreast spaced apart following. Those 5 go by and 2 mins after them another set of 5.

Then there are 4 armed SNCF police and 2 municipality police wondering around randomly as a pack.

I don’t mind any of this. I’m sure it cuts down on a pair of guys walking into their version of the LCBO and walking about with a dozen stolen bottles with no one making an effort to stop them.
 
I think we'll be seeing an uptick in strikes on oil facilities by Iran now that Kharg is in the crosshairs.

The port of Fujairah is located outside the Strait of Hormuz in the Gulf of Oman, making it a strategically important energy center that allows oil to be exported bypassing the Strait.
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news.liga.net

Drones attack one of the world's largest oil terminals in the UAE – video

Emirati authorities establish details of the attack and the amount of damage
news.liga.net news.liga.net
 
Czech_pivo said:
Not sure if it’s related to what’s going on right now in Iran but I’m here in Toulouse waiting for my train to Montpellier and there are two groups of 5 armed soldiers patrolling the station.
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Reminds me of being in Italy decades ago when the Mafia and Baader-Meinhof were at their height. Draftees with submachine guns patrolling airports and train stations. I'd hoped we were over that.

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