Joe Rogan and Pierre Poilievre interview
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Maple MAGA allegations are never going to go away I guess.
Certainly making for a very easy canvas to paint.
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Certainly making for a very easy canvas to paint.
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Maple MAGA allegations are never going to go away I guess.
Certainly making for a very easy canvas to paint.
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Labeling a long running Canadian policy conference as "Maple MAGA" is kind of lazy framing and a way to dismiss it without engaging with the ideas.
They look like a domestic forum for Conservative ideas that's been around for 20 years.
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Well, when you have known deep MAGA types like Gordon Campbell, and Mike Harris on the list you have to expect to be called Maple MAGA...
It's funny how people opposed to PP and his "MAGA" style divisiveness tend to go super divisive in their descriptions of conservatives... Almost as if the problem isn't all, or even predominantly, on just one side of the political aisle.
Edit: The Pete Hoekstra speaking part is a fireside chat... Seems pretty legitimate to invite the ambassador of our largest trading partner to an event like this for a fireside chat.
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Every fireside chat that man takes the opportunity to disparage Canada.
I hope the CPC types in attendance take the opportunity to push back if he steps out of line
Sure, in and of itself benign. But they don’t get the luxury of inviting him but not the baggage of the geopolitical situation and state of the bilateral relationship. Hopefully he’s challenged on some things.
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How is Gordon Campbell (or Mike Harris for that matter) known deep MAGA types? I don't see the connection.
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Odd take. You are surprised that there are......conservative thinkers..................at a Conservative Confernce?Maple MAGA allegations are never going to go away I guess.
Certainly making for a very easy canvas to paint.
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The agenda looks quite interesting, as does the lineup of speakers beyond the "headliners".
Sounds like just the sort of thing any political movement or ideology needs to spend time on.
What is your concern?
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It was sarcasm, I assumed listing people who were out of politics before MAGA was a thing woukd be obvious. My bad for not making it clearer.
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It's interesting that your base assumption is that conservatives are inherently likely to not counter anti-Canadian messaging, and are hoping that they will overcome their inherent anti-Canadian nature to make arguments for Canada...
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I missed that. Cheers
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One of the reasons it can be argued they lost the last election is because the LPC went full guns ablazing agaisnt America and Trump while the CPC focused on the LPC and didn't have much to say on Trump.
PP has been better on that front recently, but if they let Mr Hoekstra talk about how everything wrong with the Canada USA relationship is due to Canada, they had better tell him where he can stick it.
If they passively just let him run his mouth and don't stand up for Canada, they deserve the maple maga moniker.
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Are you holding Liberals to the same standard as Conservatives here?
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I would if they invited him to speech at their conference, yes.
I believe that people who invite Pete Hoekstra to a political event in Canada, and whose invitation he accepts, regardless of their political stripe, bear the onus of convincing me that they will be sufficiently critical of and challenging towards his positions as his country’s representative in Canada. I’m perfectly prepared to be convinced of that and it wouldn’t be difficult. Simple, civil, firm pushback on the trade war positions.
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Fair.
It's too bad the only politican that stood up to him so far has been Doug Ford.
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Which more than a few Tram Blue fans say really isn’t THAT Blue.
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I seriously laugh every time I hear the term "Maple MAGA" . To me, it is a contradictions of terms, someone accusing someone of being for a strong Canada and at the same time hoping for a strong USA., unable to make up their mind which of the two to make great.
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I wish it were that simple.
When i hear maple maga, its a Canadian who hopes for a strong America with zero regard for what is good for Canada. Or worse yet, actively cheering American because its run by the side of the political aisle they are on while detesting Canada because its run by the other side of the aisle that they dont support.
There are some for example, who look at the tariffs placed on Canada because of "fentanyl and illegal immigration" and said, yeah, america is right, we deserve this. Meanwhile every country on earth is being hit with tariffs, and the reasons of fentanyl and illegal immigration dont hold water, nor could we reduce it to numbers that would ever remove the tariffs. Clearly that has america in the wrong but to maple maga types Canada is still somehow in the wrong.
And you may think I'm joking but Pierre poilievre during the initial tariff period is on record disparaging Canada and calling for the military to be deployed to the border to cut down on illegal immigration and fentanyl trafficking, giving legitimacy to the utterly false claims by the USA.
Now Pierre Poilievre has been much improved in this regard, even during the Joe rogan show, but based on his pass comments, he really needed to be consistent in that regard, and inviting Pete Hoekstra to run his mouth while not saying anything in defense of Canada would be a very bad look. Either dont invite him if you dont want to push back on any ridiculousness he might say, or invite him but be fully prepared to push back on what he might say. Failure to do so and the maple maga moniker resurfaces and its their own damn fault.
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