All Things AB Separatism (split fm Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???)

[GK .Dundas]

Speaking very generally and hypothetically here, a person knowingly using someone else’s identity information to sign an electoral petition would likely be committing one or more criminal offenses.

I bow to your superior knowledge, sir.

 

[brihard]

I bow to your superior knowledge, sir.

Ew, don’t do that. Especially when I’m consciously not showing my work. I’m being very skittish commenting too specifically on a situation where at this point I’d be surprised if there were not a criminal investigation.

I’m just saying that I don’t share the concern about a lack of available potential offences. We’ll see if the Mounties or Edmonton or whomever end up finding something chargeable that crown’s willing to go with.

 

[GK .Dundas]

Interestingly enough I note the appearance of the usual suspects from the Convoy including Tamara Litch .
So much for there love of country which supposedly drove them to their actions.

 

[Altair]

Interestingly enough I note the appearance of the usual suspects from the Convoy including Tamara Litch .
So much for there love of country which supposedly drove them to their actions.

Since they all run in the same circles anyways, I cannot wait for the Queen of Canada to take up her mantle as Queen of Alberta.

 

[MilEME09]

"Its unconstitutional to make me cease and desist, and to sign a legal document saying I won't do illegal activity again" is an interesting defense.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2054413811978039708

 

[GK .Dundas]

"Its unconstitutional to make me cease and desist, and to sign a legal document saying I won't do illegal activity again" is an interesting defense.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2054413811978039708

I see , the old not guilty by reason of stupidity defence. Yeah, that usually goes over real well with judges .

 

[MilEME09]

Even better..... the Alberta prosperity project has dropped their costed plan.....and the math and mathing here. CPP essentially gets counted twice, no income tax yet they give them selves an unjustified 20+ Billuon surplus? None of this adds up to an a realistic costing model, seems more like random numbers on paper

https://albertaprosperityproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/Value_of_Freedom-DraftFiscal-Plan-10July2025.pdf

 

[GK .Dundas]

"Its unconstitutional to make me cease and desist, and to sign a legal document saying I won't do illegal activity again" is an interesting defense.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2054413811978039708

I think the first thing he should to from a legal standpoint....is sue his lawyer.

 

[GK .Dundas]

I see , the old not guilty by reason of stupidity defence. Yeah, that usually goes over real well with judges .

I get the distinct impression that they're hoping Canada bribes them just to go away.
That might actually work better then an independent referendum.

 

[MilEME09]

And there we have it, if im reading this right. The court just ruled EA could issue the separatist petition. Which means the petition is now dead.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2054651449322430723

 

[HavokFour]

And there we have it, if im reading this right. The court just ruled EA could issue the separatist petition. Which means the petition is now dead.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2054651449322430723

They should still go looking for seeded names, for good measure.

 

[MilEME09]

They should still go looking for seeded names, for good measure.

I doubt it will stop the investigations

 

[Altair]

And there we have it, if im reading this right. The court just ruled EA could issue the separatist petition. Which means the petition is now dead.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2054651449322430723

Somewhere along the line, I figured them and smith playing fast and loose with the rules would catch up to them.

May they be deposited into the garbage heap of history

 

[brihard]

Though predictable and expected, it definitely won’t go over well in separatist circles.

We can expect to see an uptick in rhetoric rejecting the validity or legitimacy of Canadian law and the established legal system, and I think we’ll also see
More pushing of a narrative of appealing to the Americans to ‘rescue the oppressed’ or some such nonsense.

The existence of the petition was a bit of a pressure relief valve. Striking it jams the lid back on already close to a boil. I donmt see a way this could have been avoided given the fact set and the clear illegality… But this will have consequences.

 

[MilEME09]

Full text for you all to read, ball is in Smiths court now, what will she do?

https://twitter.com/x/status/2054661642915348918

 

[Altair]

Though predictable and expected, it definitely won’t go over well in separatist circles.

We can expect to see an uptick in rhetoric rejecting the validity or legitimacy of Canadian law and the established legal system, and I think we’ll also see
More pushing of a narrative of appealing to the Americans to ‘rescue the oppressed’ or some such nonsense.

The existence of the petition was a bit of a pressure relief valve. Striking it jams the lid back on already close to a boil. I donmt see a way this could have been avoided given the fact set and the clear illegality… But this will have consequences.

the pressure is not in alberta.

The pressure is in the UCP.

Smith knows that if the separatists leave the UCP, she loses half her supporters, half her caucus.

Her playing footsies with the separatists, and thus becoming a separatist by proxy, is about keeping the UCP as a cohesive unified party.

She knows if the separatists break off, the UCP and the separatists get demolished by the NDP.

Same calculus as the Bloc Quebecois. Before they left the PCs the PCs were much more competative.

 

[Altair]

More interesting is what this means for Quebec.

Does this mean that before any potential quebec referendum the parti quebecois needs to consult with first nations?

Or put another way, did a alberta judge just hand quebec first nations a veto?

 

[MilEME09]

the pressure is not in alberta.

The pressure is in the UCP.

Smith knows that if the separatists leave the UCP, she loses half her supporters, half her caucus.

Her playing footsies with the separatists, and thus becoming a separatist by proxy, is about keeping the UCP as a cohesive unified party.

She knows if the separatists break off, the UCP and the separatists get demolished by the NDP.

Same calculus as the Bloc Quebecois. Before they left the PCs the PCs were much more competative.

100% this, the seps will join the AB republican party or form their own. Leaving the UCP with an unknown number of MLA's, likely needing to call an election. The tory party and AB liberals are gaining support and could pick up a seat or two if support crosses 10% for either party. It would make the next election very interesting

 

[brihard]

More interesting is what this means for Quebec.

Does this mean that before any potential quebec referendum the parti quebecois needs to consult with first nations?

Or put another way, did a alberta judge just hand quebec first nations a veto?

That's been the case for years. The Reference re Quebec Secession and the subsequent Clarity Act both spoke to that. It's the quiet bit hardly anyone has said out loud.

 

[Altair]

That's been the case for years. The Reference re Quebec Secession and the subsequent Clarity Act both spoke to that. It's the quiet bit hardly anyone has said out loud.

What a happy day.