Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

[Good2Golf]

My challenge to you and others, is when, when do you start raising the bar of expectations for PM MC and his brand of Liberals.

Well, if you had actually listened to what many of us have been saying about Carney, is that many of us still hold judgement on him regarding the proximal influence of China, particularly ongoing foreign interference, the likes of CCP’s United Fromt Work Department activity in Canada, including local Chinese national supported ‘Police Stations’ and the significant influence of Triad criminality particularly with money laundering and casinos in key Chinese diaspora-laden regions. It would seem you’re so upset which anyone who dare question the purported awesomeness of Poilievre, that you’re blind to the criticism of Carney by those who you accuse of being blind Carney shills.

Or Carney does EVERYTHING he promised.

Ridiculous, naive expectation. What other Canadian politician has done EVERYTHING they promised?

I have barely touched on what Pierre puts out pubicly. And the MSM/CPAC covers him frequently. Up to you.

Irrelevant. Blah, blah, blah, VerbtheNoun, blah, blah, blah.

We’ll never know what Poilievre’s word are worth until he’s PM, then we can apply the phrase Facta Non Verba. Until then it’s just Verba Inania.

I am out for real now.

See you back soon!

 

[MilEME09]

Imagine if the LotO was moved out of Stornaway to make room for the PM while the repairs were being conducted.

This was actually offered to harper in 2008

 

[Altair]

For someone who thinks the government should go with 2 new fighter fleets I'm surprised you don't seem confident in their ability at multitasking.

I trust the RCAF to figure it out.

Hoisting virtue signalling up the flag pole doesn’t actually engage with the argument; it just assigns intent instead of addressing substance.

1.2 percent. And that's me generously assigning every one of those 13K to your scenario of the dad with 7 kids.

If the concern is system integrity and incentives across immigration pathways (which mine is), that applies regardless of whether a category is 1% or 30% of intake. The relevant question is impact and abuse potential. Not just the proportional share. "It’s just a rounding error" incentivizes abuse; haven't we had enough rounding errors in the last 11 years?

We didn't see rounding errors, we got systemic errors the post covid years.

Again, if you think it's that big a deal, power to you. I think it's such a micro issue in the face of a more pertinent macro issue.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Again, if you think it's that big a deal, power to you. I think it's such a micro issue in the face of a more pertinent macro issue.

Here's some good numbers from our CBSA friends.

CBSA removes 81 individuals linked to extortion from Canada since August 2025 - Surrey Now-Leader

46 individuals were removed in the Pacific region

surreynowleader.com

In 2025, the CBSA removed 23,160 people from Canada for various reasons. Over 1,000 of those were deemed inadmissible for “serious criminality,” which included national security, war crimes or human rights violations, organized crime, and criminality.

Around 400 people are removed from Canada each week after being deemed inadmissible.

2.4 people per hour, not bad. I'm sure we can put a little more horsepower into this without our whole society collapsing eh?

 

[Altair]

Here's some good numbers from our CBSA friends.

CBSA removes 81 individuals linked to extortion from Canada since August 2025 - Surrey Now-Leader

46 individuals were removed in the Pacific region

surreynowleader.com

2.4 people per hour, not bad. I'm sure we can put a little more horsepower into this without our whole society collapsing eh?

In the grand scheme of th crux of the issue, Army rick talking about out of control migration, I seriously think 2.4 people per hour is such small potatoes when talking about 3000 people a day.

 

[Czech_pivo]

In the grand scheme of th crux of the issue, Army rick talking about out of control migration, I seriously think 2.4 people per hour is such small potatoes when talking about 3000 people a day.

It depends - is the expectation that 90+% of these people all leave on their own?

What checkpoints are in place to follow up and ensure that all 2.9 million leave when their visa’s expire?

Canadian visas for 2.9 million temporary residents expire in 2025 and 2026

Nearly three million people living in Canada on temporary resident, worker, or visitor extension permits have visas that expired last year, or will expire this year, not including student visas. New data from Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada highlights the far-reaching impact of...

edmonton.citynews.ca

 

[Jarnhamar]

In the grand scheme of th crux of the issue, Army rick talking about out of control migration, I seriously think 2.4 people per hour is such small potatoes when talking about 3000 people a day.

This stuff adds up. Costs per asylum claimant (separate from immigrants here) to taxpayers was up to $40,000 or more.

High end estimates during the Roxham highway day had these fellas costing taxpayers $1.4b to $2.5b per year. Call me heartless but I'd rather spend that money on Canadians kids teeth and school lunches. Or supporting skilled immigrants coming here.

The good news, like you point out, is target numbers are down. That doesn't mean we shouldn't be vigilant, and it's too low of a priority to put horsepower into tightening the process up. The LPC can just as easily crank open the taps next month.

 

[Altair]

This stuff adds up. Costs per asylum claimant (separate from immigrants here) to taxpayers was up to $40,000 or more.

High end estimates during the Roxham highway day had these fellas costing taxpayers $1.4b to $2.5b per year. Call me heartless but I'd rather spend that money on Canadians kids teeth and school lunches. Or supporting skilled immigrants coming here.

The good news, like you point out, is target numbers are down. That doesn't mean we shouldn't be vigilant, and it's too low of a priority to put horsepower into tightening the process up. The LPC can just as easily crank open the taps next month.

I dont think the Liberal Progressive Conservaties are going to do that.

 

[YZT580]

Housing is flat. You don't want housing dropping unless your goal is to hammer those who are just getting into houses right now. When their mortgage term is up, watch them get screwed when their LTV rates go in the wrong direction.

Again, we ran into issues by ramping up immigration to levels we couldn't manage. Don't think for a second we wouldn't run into problems if we did the same thing in reverse.

not suggesting that you run it in reverse but if we have planned for a population of 39 million and we have ballooned to 41 million (not real numbers) then watching a drop to 40 million is not as much a retraction as a system correction and it is not harmful. Here is a quote from the CBC article listed above re: increased foreign workers "
Kelly said that while he recognizes it is challenging for youth to find jobs, many of the federation's members in rural and remote locations don't get a lot of young people "willing to take the job."

"Canadian young kids, I’m sorry, they’re not signing up for jobs on farms. They’re not signing up for jobs at the meat plant, they’re not going and planting trees like decades ago in rural and remote locations," he said." What needs to be said to them is that is fine, no work no eat. But there are a lot of kids who have the potential for doing that work if they are given the opportunity and the consequences but if a restaurant can hire an off-shore for 18 an hour and then claw back rent or groceries or transportation costs they will do it and simply say they couldn't find anyone and that is happening a lot. Ford may be trolling for votes but he has got it right. Lets get Canada working again before we say we can't and bring in people when we have a bunch of folks who are just too proud to get their hands dirty.

Everything above does not apply if the people we are losing are the skilled ones. That is what we need to identify and correct if it is true