CANFORGEN on Military Service Pay released

[dangerboy]

The CANFORGEN on Military Service Pay has been released. It looks like we will see the money in December 2026.

120/26, MSP Update Payment Timelines and Validation Process - Canada.ca

 

[PuckChaser]

They've also updated the FAQ here: Improvements to compensation and benefits for the Canadian Armed Forces - Canada.ca

It now includes specifics on continuous service, reserve Cl A/B calculations, etc.

 

[da1root]

Colour me a bit bitter that the clock fully resets if you spent time on the Supp Res; I have 27 years of service, 24 pensionable at the moment and with this calculation I fall into the 11-15 year period because of 10 months on the Supp Res, and I'm still trying to figure out why a Class A reservist who shows up 14 days a year will get the same as a Class B reservist.

Don't think I'm saying that I think Class B & Reg Force should get the same (because they shouldn't); I just don't get why someone showing up enough not to go NES should get the same as the MWO who is working for me year round.

I liked the 13% pay raise, but this doesn't seem like a benefit for reservists, at least not the full time reservists.
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[Seyek]

Colour me a bit bitter that the clock fully resets if you spent time on the Supp Res; I have 27 years of service, 24 pensionable at the moment and with this calculation I fall into the 11-15 year period because of 10 months on the Supp Res, and I'm still trying to figure out why a Class A reservist who shows up 14 days a year will get the same as a Class B reservist.

Don't think I'm saying that I think Class B & Reg Force should get the same (because they shouldn't); I just don't get why someone showing up enough not to go NES should get the same as the MWO who is working for me year round.

I liked the 13% pay raise, but this doesn't seem like a benefit for reservists, at least not the full time reservists.
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I really think this should have been a percentage, with a higher percentage for Reg Force vs Reserve and based on total time, not just continuous. That way you incentivize both staying in and coming back, advancement, and active participation for reservists. Something like 1% for each level, and a smaller percentage of that for reservists. Still, I'll happily take whatever extra money they want to give me.

 

[PuckChaser]

and I'm still trying to figure out why a Class A reservist who shows up 14 days a year will get the same as a Class B reservist.

Because both of those members get the same CD as a RegF member who spends 24/7/365 on call? Its the easiest way to do the math and quite honestly the whole goal is to incentivize real full time service to fill up the RegF slots.

 

[brihard]

They could easily have tied it to days of pensionable service, the same that VAC uses to calculate the Education and Training Benefit. That has the effect of ‘squeezing the air bubbles out’ of broken or Class A service.

 

[McG]

I liked the 13% pay raise, but this doesn't seem like a benefit for reservists, at least not the full time reservists.

It is hard to create a benefit for something that is not supposed to exist under law.

 

[da1root]

I did see a "rumour" mill post that was floating around on other social media that paid reservists a "per day" payout.

I can't remember the exact numbers so lets just use $1.00 as the baseline. If it worked out that the annual benefit was $365, for each day of service you got $1.00 as a reservist; so the 14 Day Class A would have gotten $14.00 and the 365 day Class B would have gotten $365 - I personally thought this was fair; but alas it seems that it was just a rumour floating around social media. Heck what do I know though ... LOL

It is hard to create a benefit for something that is not supposed to exist under law.

Yet there's a way for reservists to belong to the same pension plan as the RegF for working Class B for 25 years Where there's a will there's a way, especially with so many permanent positions on the books