Engineers Behaving Badly

[dapaterson]

If we can have diss tracks for police and lawyers, then engineers deserve the same.

May I provide for our inaugural shit talking, a New Brunswick engineer who has admitted to profound incompetence.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/helene-theriault-engineer-discipline-9.7338972

 

[Navy_Pete]

If we can have diss tracks for police and lawyers, then engineers deserve the same.

May I provide for our inaugural shit talking, a New Brunswick engineer who has admitted to profound incompetence.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/helene-theriault-engineer-discipline-9.7338972

The stuff that gets picked up by internal review of the infra projects by DND SMEs frequently falls into this category, and almost makes me miss working on the NSS files. Not just structural, but plenty of basic errors on fire, electrical, mechanical and others where things don't meet basic code, let alone DND requirements.

No big deal though, it'll be fine to just streamline the process and skip those reviews to expedite project delivery as it's all signed off by professional engineers and architects, right?

There are some really excellent firms that we learn things off of, but they only have so much capacity and get underbid by some of these useless idiots, or they use it as an opportunity to train up the C team. Pretty wild.

 

[dapaterson]

The stuff that gets picked up by internal review of the infra projects by DND SMEs frequently falls into this category, and almost makes me miss working on the NSS files. Not just structural, but plenty of basic errors on fire, electrical, mechanical and others where things don't meet basic code, let alone DND requirements.

No big deal though, it'll be fine to just streamline the process and skip those reviews to expedite project delivery as it's all signed off by professional engineers and architects, right?

There are some really excellent firms that we learn things off of, but they only have so much capacity and get underbid by some of these useless idiots, or they use it as an opportunity to train up the C team. Pretty wild.

I am assured that all infra work is only of the finest quality.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

It failed due to freshet, so lets rebuild the exact same bridge so it can fail again, because we don't have the budget to do it right.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

It failed due to freshet, so lets rebuild the exact same bridge so it can fail again, because we don't have the budget to do it right.

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Where is that?

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Where is that?

On the road to Gingox just south of the Nass River and 10km due east from Laxgalts'ap

 

[OldSolduer]

What is it? A bridge??

 

[Eaglelord17]

It failed due to freshet, so lets rebuild the exact same bridge so it can fail again, because we don't have the budget to do it right.

We have a saying where I work, we don’t have the time to do it right, only the time to do it twice (or more).

Halfassing things is a Canadian tradition, we don’t like putting the effort in needed to get the result in the first place and will often pay more for a lesser product by time everything is said and done.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

We have a saying where I work, we don’t have the time to do it right, only the time to do it twice (or more).

Halfassing things is a Canadian tradition, we don’t like putting the effort in needed to get the result in the first place and will often pay more for a lesser product by time everything is said and done.

Working with a road engineer for Canfor, he said they saw real longterm savings with the changes made under the Forest Practice Code in regards to main FSR's. The reduction in road and bridge failures easily paid for the higher upfront costs.

 

[Eaglelord17]

Working with a road engineer for Canfor, he said they saw real longterm savings with the changes made under the Forest Practice Code in regards to main FSR's. The reduction in road and bridge failures easily paid for the higher upfront costs.

Preventative maintenance (and predictive maintenance is even better) always saves money long term. The problem is the higher initial cost and all these ‘professionals’ who get put in charge of departments, cut costs by switching to breakdown maintenance, and then for a number of years everything is fine due to how well maintained things were.

By time those policies come to bite them usually the ones who made it were promoted up for their sterling efforts on saving and the poor sap who moves in now has to spend more money to barely keep things going, getting compared negatively to the previous boss due to having to spend more to get the same result.