Canada moves to 2% GDP end of FY25/26 - PMMC

[Brad Sallows]

1) It's not just coursework. They have practicuums. Did you not have student teachers when you attended school? Did you never have one in any of your kid's classes? My kid had one in her classroom last year.

2) How exactly do you propose training teachers instead? Pretty easy to criticize from the sidelines with no alternative in sight.

I know full well what is involved; I went through the public school system when shop classes still existed (I took 3) and have teachers and administrators in the family tree going back two generations (ie. since "normal school" days).

A shop teacher is not dealing with academic subjects, and probably not with students below the age of 12 or 13. Preparation for teaching shop classes doesn't need to be part of an employment program for faculty of ed professors. I am confident that if a general academic teacher suited to the entire range of K-12 can be adequately prepared in less than one year (course work, examinations, student teaching), a shop teacher can be adequately prepared in less.

JHCOACIAS, I hope we don't have to have another round of "teaching is hard to learn/do" here.

 

[HavokFour]

Sounds like something else is coming. May be time to open up another betting pool.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2108350169120981316

https://twitter.com/x/status/2108352805534613958

 

[ytz]

I know full well what is involved;

And yet didn't know that teachers have practicums in their training?

I am confident that if a general academic teacher suited to the entire range of K-12 can be adequately prepared in less than one year (course work, examinations, student teaching), a shop teacher can be adequately prepared in less.

Not the question asked.

 

[ytz]

Sounds like something else is coming. May be time to open up another betting pool.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2108350169120981316

https://twitter.com/x/status/2108352805534613958

CEO DIA is being given God like procurement powers. People definitely aren't ready for what is coming. But that also means a lot more of the pols picking stuff instead of letting the process play out.

 

[Czech_pivo]

CEO DIA is being given God like procurement powers. People definitely aren't ready for what is coming. But that also means a lot more of the pols picking stuff instead of letting the process play out.

Interesting to see what happens and where the chips fall.
I doubt that the ‘Pols’ are opening the old Sears Christmas Catalog and are turning to Military Hardware section and are just randomly picking whatever looks good to them. There has to be a number of CAF individuals involved in this process. Carney is no fool, regardless what some on here think, he has a plan and a process and I’m certain that he’s executing it accordingly.

 

[Brad Sallows]

And yet didn't know that teachers have practicums in their training?

I wrote specifically about six months of course work. I have no control over the interpretive leaps your mind makes and no requirement to engage the resultant red herrings. "Aha! You didn't mention everything!" must rank among the top 10 Stupid Internet Discussion Games.

 

[ytz]

Interesting to see what happens and where the chips fall.
I doubt that the ‘Pols’ are opening the old Sears Christmas Catalog and are turning to Military Hardware section and are just randomly picking whatever looks good to them. There has to be a number of CAF individuals involved in this process. Carney is no fool, regardless what some on here think, he has a plan and a process and I’m certain that he’s executing it accordingly.

Look at the Globaleye. Picked despite not meeting High Level Mandatories with zero warning to any of the Air Staff. Hell, the RCAF Commander found out what we were getting by being in the audience. This is some unprecedented behaviour on procurement. And I expect similar across multiple files coming up. Heck, it's not the only project this has happened on. There's a few others I can't mention here.

The return on lobbying for any company that can empathize its Canadian presence/bona fides, is really good right now. I'm not even going to say it's categorically bad. A lot of our allies do place a lot more emphasis on industrial output than us. However, the risk of corruption, influence mongering, etc becomes higher in this setup. I don't think we've given lobbyists this much power in a long time.

And I'll say that the first CEO of DIA has been stellar and supportive of the CAF. He's gotten military staff posted in and integrated. No guarantee what his successors will do though.

 

[Kirkhill]

I know full well what is involved; I went through the public school system when shop classes still existed (I took 3) and have teachers and administrators in the family tree going back two generations (ie. since "normal school" days).

A shop teacher is not dealing with academic subjects, and probably not with students below the age of 12 or 13. Preparation for teaching shop classes doesn't need to be part of an employment program for faculty of ed professors. I am confident that if a general academic teacher suited to the entire range of K-12 can be adequately prepared in less than one year (course work, examinations, student teaching), a shop teacher can be adequately prepared in less.

JHCOACIAS, I hope we don't have to have another round of "teaching is hard to learn/do" here.

Not picking sides here but I found this short in my feed and it seemed related.

Training, support, logistics. Repair? Or replace?

And how many parts will survive the mechanics?

 

[Gordon Dundas/]

The Modern automobile is built to be sold
Nobody ever said anything about servicing it. We live in an era where you have to literally disassemble a vehicle in order to just change the sparkplugs.

 

[PrairieFella]

Sounds like something else is coming. May be time to open up another betting pool.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2108350169120981316

https://twitter.com/x/status/2108352805534613958

The Army has received little love lately so Im going to go dark horse and say IFM.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Look at the Globaleye. Picked despite not meeting High Level Mandatories with zero warning to any of the Air Staff. Hell, the RCAF Commander found out what we were getting by being in the audience. This is some unprecedented behaviour on procurement. And I expect similar across multiple files coming up. Heck, it's not the only project this has happened on. There's a few others I can't mention here.

If this occurred in the business world, to me, I would view it as the following:
1) Time for me to start looking at my exit strategy as clearly my boss does not trust me enough to let me in on this announcement prior to it happening
2) The PM and his PMO have been dealing with some serious leaks coming from the RCAF, do they suspect me, because its true, or do they suspect someone(s) in my inner circle who would know about Globaleye if I had known about it

The return on lobbying for any company that can empathize its Canadian presence/bona fides, is really good right now. I'm not even going to say it's categorically bad. A lot of our allies do place a lot more emphasis on industrial output than us. However, the risk of corruption, influence mongering, etc becomes higher in this setup. I don't think we've given lobbyists this much power in a long time.

Flip the coin - either we stay with the approach of the Public Servants continuing to slow walk just about every single item put in front of them and nothing continues to get done - until they all retire, are fired or are shuffled off to cause damage in another department - or we pivot to the lobbyists and go with them. We write into the contracts meaningful parts about being sued or financially libel going forward and we join with how its done with the majority of our Allies

And I'll say that the first CEO of DIA has been stellar and supportive of the CAF. He's gotten military staff posted in and integrated. No guarantee what his successors will do though.

Isnt' that the same with all bosses? This one is great, but who knows about the next one?

 

[Eaglelord17]

The Modern automobile is built to be sold
Nobody ever said anything about servicing it. We live in an era where you have to literally disassemble a vehicle in order to just change the sparkplugs.

Yes it is harder to work on modern vehicles without the proper kit, that being said you rarely have to work on them.

My mazda 3 over 120k has only needed brake changes and oil changes, one shock (which when you live in a city with 25% of roads rated ‘poor’ is pretty good), and now at 120k the spark plugs (because thats what the manual recommends).

That type of reliability was unheard of even a couple decades ago.

 

[Kirkhill]

The Modern automobile is built to be sold
Nobody ever said anything about servicing it. We live in an era where you have to literally disassemble a vehicle in order to just change the sparkplugs.

And that reality will translate to battlefield logistics.

If you want to build a simple 1940s style vehicle that can be repaired it is going to cost you.

A cheaper solution is just to keep taking disposable trucks off the line and putting all your effectors and sensors on swappable pallets.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Yes it is harder to work on modern vehicles without the proper kit, that being said you rarely have to work on them.

My mazda 3 over 120k has only needed brake changes and oil changes, one shock (which when you live in a city with 25% of roads rated ‘poor’ is pretty good), and now at 120k the spark plugs (because thats what the manual recommends).

That type of reliability was unheard of even a couple decades ago.

Someone asked about the wetbelt issue with the Fords being sent to Ukraine, the response was "Don't worry they won't last that long"

 

[Eaglelord17]

Someone asked about the wetbelt issue with the Fords being sent to Ukraine, the response was "Don't worry they won't last that long"

This is why the fallacy the west has gotten into with less better kit is a issue. At some point you just run out and then your screwed. Plus lack of spares means that your fleet degrades quicker and is less effective the farther you get from the initial purchase.

Quantity has a quality all of its own.