Manitoba Majority Government, 2023-?

[Remius]

They do. I don't recall it even being a big issue during their election. Maybe politics are moving past stuff 20 years in the past.

The Provincial Conservatives got desperate in the last week or so and went after him on that stuff. I don’t think it helped their cause and may have had the opposite effect they were aiming for.

 

[OldSolduer]

The Provincial Conservatives got desperate in the last week or so and went after him on that stuff. I don’t think it helped their cause and may have had the opposite effect they were aiming for.

You are right in that regard. People can change for the better and that backfired on them.

 

[The Bread Guy]

The Provincial Conservatives got desperate in the last week or so and went after him on that stuff. I don’t think it helped their cause and may have had the opposite effect they were aiming for.

It also helped that Team Orange stepped out from the very start about the history to get it on the table and out of the way.

 

[OldSolduer]

It also helped that Team Orange stepped out from the very start about the history to get it on the table and out of the way.

Here's another - the searching of the landfills filled everyone's heart with sadness and anger at the evil Heather and her gang.

NOW I expect all those who pushed for the search to willingly VOLUNTEER without recompense to search the landfills. Unions, citizens and large corporations that all pressed for that get out there and do it.

 

[Halifax Tar]

I donMt really know anything about Houston, but yeah, Ford’s kept it in check pretty well.

Houston hasn't done much but he seems to maintaining his support.

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Having said that the NS Liberals are pretty much blamed all around for the state we are in and they haven't been forgiven, yet.

 

[FJAG]

Here's another - the searching of the landfills filled everyone's heart with sadness and anger at the evil Heather and her gang.

NOW I expect all those who pushed for the search to willingly VOLUNTEER without recompense to search the landfills. Unions, citizens and large corporations that all pressed for that get out there and do it.

An NDP government? Asking workers to work for free? Voluntarily?

I thought you were a Manitoban. Oh wait. We still don't have a sarcasm emoji do we?

 

[OldSolduer]

An NDP government? Asking workers to work for free? Voluntarily?

I thought you were a Manitoban. Oh wait. We still don't have a sarcasm emoji do we?

Yes I am a Mandalorian.....weapons are part of my religion.

OH I misread that.... a Manitoban - well sort of. Originally from Saskatchewan....

 

[FJAG]

Yes I am a Mandalorian.....weapons are part of my religion.

OH I misread that.... a Manitoban - well sort of. Originally from Saskatchewan....

I was just a transient Manitoban myself - well for 32 years - so ...

 

[ModlrMike]

I like how the feds chipped in 740K to study the study.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

I like how the feds chipped in 740K to study the study.

Consultants gotta consult….

 

[medicineman]

I was just a transient Manitoban myself - well for 32 years - so ...

Yes I am a Mandalorian.....weapons are part of my religion.

OH I misread that.... a Manitoban - well sort of. Originally from Saskatchewan....

A lot of transplants here...

 

[daftandbarmy]

Consultants gotta consult….

 

[Halifax Tar]

Pretty shocking stuff, IMHO.

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[brihard]

Pretty shocking stuff, IMHO.

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So, this made me curious. Usually when we see a tightly cropped clip of a politician saying something inflammatory it ends up being edited to strip context. Sure enough that’s the case here.

AI disclosure- I fired the quote into Claude and asked it to find me the source, date, and context, but then I read the transcript myself.

The MLA in question is speaking to a private member’s bill that would substantially limit civil liability for, effectively, those who harm suspects engaged in trespassing. The MLA is a former teacher and was noting how many younger kids do really stupid things either in theft or as pranks. The “if they want to steal, let them steal” was a specific and direct reference to the common retail store policy against physically apprehending shoplifters due to the risk of injury. The brief clip presented is from this longer quote:

“I don't think anyone's property is more valuable than a human life. That's why we have insurance. That's why we buy insurance for our property. That's why it's so important that we not put ourselves in the line of fire when something's being stolen.

You know, we tell people who work in retail, someone comes in, they want to steal, let them steal. It's not worth your life. We've seen what happens when people don't do that. I think about the grocery store clerk many, many years ago on Arlington avenue. He's trying to, you know, go after a shoplifter and ends up dying. It's just not worth it.”

Her longer full statement is in Hansard, she was the first speaker that session: 3rd Session - 43rd Legislature, Vol. 77a, Oct 29, 2026

Lots to debate in her longer statement, but I don’t think the selective editing by the opposition was promoted remotely fairly. Whoever edited and put out the video is being disingenuous. It’s unfortunate that we live in an era now where out political representatives can’t debate things frankly without having to worry that a four second clip will be selectively edited. Still lots of contentious stuff to debate, but for me personally the shock value disappeared with added context.

To be clear, I’m not suggesting any ill intent in your further sharing of it. I think that’s just exactly what they were seeking; push the sound byte knowing that in most cases, the audience isn’t going to have the down time to look further.

Funny enough this ties back in to the latter half of one of my replies in the ‘police behaving badly’ thread the other day about public expectations around petty theft.

 

[Halifax Tar]

So, this made me curious. Usually when we see a tightly cropped clip of a politician saying something inflammatory it ends up being edited to strip context. Sure enough that’s the case here.

AI disclosure- I fired the quote into Claude and asked it to find me the source, date, and context, but then I read the transcript myself.

The MLA in question is speaking to a private member’s bill that would substantially limit civil liability for, effectively, those who harm suspects engaged in trespassing. The MLA is a former teacher and was noting how many younger kids do really stupid things either in theft or as pranks. The “if they want to steal, let them steal” was a specific and direct reference to the common retail store policy against physically apprehending shoplifters due to the risk of injury. The brief clip presented is from this longer quote:

“I don't think anyone's property is more valuable than a human life. That's why we have insurance. That's why we buy insurance for our property. That's why it's so important that we not put ourselves in the line of fire when something's being stolen.

You know, we tell people who work in retail, someone comes in, they want to steal, let them steal. It's not worth your life. We've seen what happens when people don't do that. I think about the grocery store clerk many, many years ago on Arlington avenue. He's trying to, you know, go after a shoplifter and ends up dying. It's just not worth it.”

Her longer full statement is in Hansard, she was the first speaker that session: 3rd Session - 43rd Legislature, Vol. 77a, Oct 29, 2026

Lots to debate in her longer statement, but I don’t think the selective editing by the opposition was promoted remotely fairly. Whoever edited and put out the video is being disingenuous. It’s unfortunate that we live in an era now where out political representatives can’t debate things frankly without having to worry that a four second clip will be selectively edited. Still lots of contentious stuff to debate, but for me personally the shock value disappeared with added context.

To be clear, I’m not suggesting any ill intent in your further sharing of it. I think that’s just exactly what they were seeking; push the sound byte knowing that in most cases, the audience isn’t going to have the down time to look further.

Funny enough this ties back in to the latter half of one of my replies in the ‘police behaving badly’ thread the other day about public expectations around petty theft.

Are you suggesting that the post is inaccurate? If so, could you kindly point out the inaccuracies? Are you saying that it doesn't accurately reflect what she said, or that you disagree with either the statements made by the NDP MLA or the Manitoba PC Party's decision to post them?

I think we've established in other threads that we view the world through very different lenses and have distinctly different political leanings and biases.

That said, I don't see how any context could justify an elected official making those particular statements. I'm genuinely interested in understanding which part you disagree with: the accuracy of the post itself, the statements being made, or the decision to share them.

Also the whole clip is over 2 mins in length.

 

[FSTO]

Yes I am a Mandalorian.....weapons are part of my religion.

OH I misread that.... a Manitoban - well sort of. Originally from Saskatchewan....

You’re a Saskatoban, or a Manikawan. Especially if you’re from Westman or Eastsask.

 

[brihard]

Are you suggesting that the post is inaccurate? If so, could you kindly point out the inaccuracies? Are you saying that it doesn't accurately reflect what she said, or that you disagree with either the statements made by the NDP MLA or the Manitoba PC Party's decision to post them?

I think we've established in other threads that we view the world through very different lenses and have distinctly different political leanings and biases.

That said, I don't see how any context could justify an elected official making those particular statements. I'm genuinely interested in understanding which part you disagree with: the accuracy of the post itself, the statements being made, or the decision to share them.

Also the whole clip is over 2 mins in length.

I’m quite confident I made it clear exactly what my thoughts are, but I’ll sum it up again: a very small portion of the actual words she said are presented in the video. The context in which she said them was very deliberately excluded; you can see how tightly cropped the brief clip was. Because her words were separated from their proper context, much of their actual communicative meaning was lost. I believe this was done deliberately by the video author, and I believe they did so specifically so people would think this legislator, and the NDP government more generally, are condoning or permitting theft. The rest of her statement makes it clear that’s not the case.

I believe that by stripping her words of context for an inflammatory video clip, the video authors are being disingenuous and deceptive. The post toes the line by leaving it to an uncurious audience to ‘read in’ what they want them to, at which point the understanding of what’s conveyed becomes, yes, very inaccurate. And that was deliberate. I disagree with stripping someone’s words of their context to try to make it look like they’re saying something other than what they’re actually saying.

Given that I’ve investigated, arrested, and charged plenty of people with theft, and have intervened even off duty to help victims and identify suspects who were subsequently arrested, I’m not sure what different of political videos you’re suggesting you and I have that has a bearing on this. Theft is bad. The MLA herself doesn’t take a different position from that. Did you actually read her full statement that I found and posted the link to?

 

[Halifax Tar]

I’m quite confident I made it clear exactly what my thoughts are, but I’ll sum it up again: a very small portion of the actual words she said are presented in the video. The context in which she said them was very deliberately excluded; you can see how tightly cropped the brief clip was. Because her words were separated from their proper context, much of their actual communicative meaning was lost. I believe this was done deliberately by the video author, and I believe they did so specifically so people would think this legislator, and the NDP government more generally, are condoning or permitting theft. The rest of her statement makes it clear that’s not the case.

I believe that by stripping her words of context for an inflammatory video clip, the video authors are being disingenuous and deceptive. The post toes the line by leaving it to an uncurious audience to ‘read in’ what they want them to, at which point the understanding of what’s conveyed becomes, yes, very inaccurate. And that was deliberate. I disagree with stripping someone’s words of their context to try to make it look like they’re saying something other than what they’re actually saying.

I appreciate your opinion.

Given that I’ve investigated, arrested, and charged plenty of people with theft, and have intervened even off duty to help victims and identify suspects who were subsequently arrested, I’m not sure what different of political videos you’re suggesting you and I have that has a bearing on this.

I said threads, not videos. If you don’t think we have a history of disagreement on these forums, then you and I have fundamentally different views of our shared history of interactions.

Theft is bad.

Agreed.

The MLA herself doesn’t take a different position from that. Did you actually read her full statement that I found and posted the link to?

No, nor do I intend to. I watched the full clip, and the response from the C MLA is more impactful. I know who the NDP are and what they stand for. I used to be able to vote for them, but they, much like the LPC and their provincial counterparts, have left me behind.

 

[brihard]

I appreciate your opinion.

and I yours, believe it or not. That’s why I take the time to engage with you.

I said threads, not videos. If you don’t think we have a history of disagreement on these forums, then you and I have fundamentally different views of our shared history of interactions.

Sorry dude, autocorrect got me. That should have said ‘views’, not ‘videos’. I don’t think our views on theft are particularly different. I’ve made my opinion on politically flavoured video pretty clear over the years…

No, nor do I intend to. I watched the full clip, and the response from the C MLA is more impactful. I know who the NDP are and what they stand for. I used to be able to vote for them, but they, much like the LPC and their provincial counterparts, have left me behind.

Ok, but so that’s exactly why deceptively packaging select cropped quotes works in politics. Because they can take something not shocking or outrageous, strip it of context, and trust that a lot of people will respond that way, usually out of some sort of confirmation bias. The ‘full clip’ still doesn’t honestly represent what she was actually saying in her statement. This has basically exactly proven my point.

Ironically, just reading her statement (which I linked) or even a few paragraphs around the narrow quote would have taken a lot less time and effort than reading or responding to my replies.