2025 Federal Election - 28 Apr 25

[Remius]

If Poilievre thinks he can save his job as party leader in the face of a loss he’s delusional. Delivering that sort of utter failure and epitomizing the “defeat from the jaws of victory” trope would be the end of his fortunes in the CPC. You don’t shit in the bed at summer camp and come back the next year.

Quite likely. But he may still try. I’m not seeing too much depth in that party. All we see is PP and his wife. Who would take over? The party rejected any centrist type and has made it clear where they want to be. Ironically it may not be the progressive part that ousts him as some of the more right wing elements who have been muted may be encouraged to speak out. Byrne will be gone if a loss happens to be certain but PP may be able to hold on if barely. He doesn’t give me the impression that he’s someone who will step down willingly.

Now if Doug Ford challenged him? That would be an interesting fight.

 

[brihard]

Quite likely. But he may still try. I’m not seeing too much depth in that party. All we see is PP and his wife. Who would take over? The party rejected any centrist type and has made it clear where they want to be. Ironically it may not be the progressive part that ousts him as some of the more right wing elements who have been muted may be encouraged to speak out. Byrne will be gone if a loss happens to be certain but PP may be able to hold on if barely. He doesn’t give me the impression that he’s someone who will step down willingly.

Now if Doug Ford challenged him? That would be an interesting fight.

Ford or Kenney. Either would probably wipe him out following a loss. Ford would have the edge I think, for the ability to bring more Ontario vote.

 

[Good2Golf]

Ford or Kenney. Either would probably wipe him out following a loss. Ford would have the edge I think, for the ability to bring more Ontario vote.

The only Westerner I think would have resounding success in that regard would be Rona Ambrose, and while I appreciate why she moved on at the time, I would love to see her return to Canadian national politics. I’d also take a Bluenoser (MacKay). With a solid replacement for Premier, I’d also give critical thought to Ford.

 

[Rifleman62]

Lumber: For the most part, the people supporting the LPC do not want more of the last 10 years, and they are assessing (and hoping) that with Carney that it won't be.

What's that expression? Hope is not a course of action.

 

[Remius]

The only Westerner I think would have resounding success in that regard would be Rona Ambrose, and while I appreciate why she moved on at the time, I would love to see her return to Canadian national politics. I’d also take a Bluenoser (MacKay). With a solid replacement for Premier, I’d also give critical thought to Ford.

Ambrose would actually be a decent choice. She’s been away enough to be distanced from the current party, has shown she can work with parties across the aisle and has significant experience dealing with the US and the woman vote might not be so slanted.

If she was in place right now this would be a much different race.

 

[brihard]

The only Westerner I think would have resounding success in that regard would be Rona Ambrose, and while I appreciate why she moved on at the time, I would love to see her return to Canadian national politics. I’d also take a Bluenoser (MacKay). With a solid replacement for Premier, I’d also give critical thought to Ford.

A solid, proven centrist Conservative from eastern Canada, who has the right positions on protecting and boosting western Canadian resource industries, could, with the right campaign (and some passable French), be a compelling choice.

 

[mariomike]

Now if Doug Ford challenged him? That would be an interesting fight.

Does the ability to speak French matter?

Doug Ford says he stopped taking French lessons for safety reasons during pandemic

Ontario Premier Doug Ford says he stopped taking French lessons as a safety precaution during the pandemic but has promised to do everything he can to learn the language.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[brihard]

Does the ability to speak French matter?

Doug Ford says he stopped taking French lessons for safety reasons during pandemic

Ontario Premier Doug Ford says he stopped taking French lessons as a safety precaution during the pandemic but has promised to do everything he can to learn the language.

www.ctvnews.ca

I think it matters to be able to get by- not learning the second official language to at least some extent can be rightly perceived as disrespectful to a not insignificant chunk of the population. But I don’t think true fluency is essential if the effort is seen to be there and the actual positions articulated are sound. Carney’s fortunes in Quebec in a few weeks will validate or repudiate this.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Does the ability to speak French matter?

Doug Ford says he stopped taking French lessons for safety reasons during pandemic

Ontario Premier Doug Ford says he stopped taking French lessons as a safety precaution during the pandemic but has promised to do everything he can to learn the language.

www.ctvnews.ca

How is he with women?

 

[Remius]

Does the ability to speak French matter?

Doug Ford says he stopped taking French lessons for safety reasons during pandemic

Ontario Premier Doug Ford says he stopped taking French lessons as a safety precaution during the pandemic but has promised to do everything he can to learn the language.

www.ctvnews.ca

Given the current slate of candidates? I’m not so sure. He would definitely need some improvements there. He also had some missteps when he first took office with the Franco population in Ontario. He’s walked a lot of it back but it left a bit of stain then and Quebec did notice (which they normally don’t when it comes to Francos outside the province).

There is a misunderstanding that speaking French perfectly is the be all end all. The key I think is being able to at least properly communicate and try and show a willingness to improve. The militants won’t care unless you can speak like Molière but the average Quebec voter won’t be too upset.

If you go to Quebec and only address them in English or speak to reporters in English when asked in French that will be a problem.

 

[dapaterson]

Ford or Kenney. Either would probably wipe him out following a loss. Ford would have the edge I think, for the ability to bring more Ontario vote.

If they want to see how deep the bottom is, they could bring back Baird.

 

[brihard]

If they want to see how deep the bottom is, they could bring back Baird.

That’s unnecessarily crass.

 

[The Bread Guy]

“I’m going to *name a country and you just nod…..China…” [guy nods]

Zackly!

Where “country” read “candidate” or MP, too?

 

[The Bread Guy]

… any questions about what he would do was answered with “I’m not the PM” was an opportunity lost.

he waited to see where the wind was blowing and assumed he’d be facing Trudeau and would remain comfortable in the polling that had him way ahead.

Some historians are going to say he played it tactically brilliantly but strategically wrong. Great short game, not so good long game. We’ll see.

 

[brihard]

Some historians are going to say he played it tactically brilliantly but strategically wrong. Great short game, not so good long game. We’ll see.

He was too successful, too early.

 

[The Bread Guy]

He was too successful, too early.

And kept playing the same game too long.

 

[SupersonicMax]

What's that expression? Hope is not a course of action.

Unless you specifically address the most dangerous course of action, hope is always part of every COA.

 

[Remius]

Unless you specifically address the most dangerous course of action, hope is always part of every COA.

But it is always the first step to disappointment.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Meanwhile, in Calgary

https://twitter.com/x/status/1910798975126610405

 

[The Bread Guy]

But it is always the first step to disappointment.

To be fair, it is only if the I ONLY element of the option is keeping one’s fingers crossed