All true & good points. Still, provinces asking is a non-zero factor (although admittedly far from the only one).
So, depending on the political glasses someone's wearing, Ottawa is either 1) being the adult and telling provinces, "no, we can't bring THAT many more people in," or 2) ignoring the will of a level of government closer to most people than the feds are.
Gord Johns and his petition to repurpose our 'left over' C-130s
Madam Speaker, it is an honour to table this petition on behalf of petitioners from my riding of Courtenay—Alberni, who are on the front line of wildfires this season. They highlight that the increase in intensity and cost of wildfires in Canada, not just in British Columbia but across the country, requires bold and timely action.
Without a national air tanker fleet, each province must weigh the cost of purchasing or contracting aviation resources, with no guarantee that resources will be available when and where they are needed most. Fighting wildfires and addressing the climate crisis demands a wartime level of effort and commitment. Other countries retrofit retired military aircraft for aerial firefighting and providing rapid response capability and national resilience.
The conversion of Canada's retired CC-130 Hercules fleet into state-of-the-art air tankers would protect communities and critical infrastructure, and it would help meet climate commitments by reducing catastrophic carbon releases from wildfires.
The petitioners cite that they are calling on the government to work in partnership with the private sector, in collaboration with potential first nations partners, to retrofit a portion of Canada's retired CC-130H Hercules fleet into large air tankers for wildfire suppression; deploy these aircraft as part of a strengthened national wildfire response capacity, to be shared with provinces and territories and, where appropriate, to be available for international humanitarian and emergency response missions; and, finally, prioritize this made-in-Canada solution, which leverages Canadian engineering and global expertise and delivers clear benefits in protecting lives, communities and the environment.
Gord Johns and his petition to repurpose our 'left over' C-130s
Madam Speaker, it is an honour to table this petition on behalf of petitioners from my riding of Courtenay—Alberni, who are on the front line of wildfires this season. They highlight that the increase in intensity and cost of wildfires in Canada, not just in British Columbia but across the country, requires bold and timely action.
Without a national air tanker fleet, each province must weigh the cost of purchasing or contracting aviation resources, with no guarantee that resources will be available when and where they are needed most. Fighting wildfires and addressing the climate crisis demands a wartime level of effort and commitment. Other countries retrofit retired military aircraft for aerial firefighting and providing rapid response capability and national resilience.
The conversion of Canada's retired CC-130 Hercules fleet into state-of-the-art air tankers would protect communities and critical infrastructure, and it would help meet climate commitments by reducing catastrophic carbon releases from wildfires.
The petitioners cite that they are calling on the government to work in partnership with the private sector, in collaboration with potential first nations partners, to retrofit a portion of Canada's retired CC-130H Hercules fleet into large air tankers for wildfire suppression; deploy these aircraft as part of a strengthened national wildfire response capacity, to be shared with provinces and territories and, where appropriate, to be available for international humanitarian and emergency response missions; and, finally, prioritize this made-in-Canada solution, which leverages Canadian engineering and global expertise and delivers clear benefits in protecting lives, communities and the environment.
You forgot the part about “clapped out airframes with dodgy wingboxes” and “Transport Canada has a stated policy of never again allowing civil registry of an ex-military airframe” and then, my favourite- “if the feds wade into this, they will own the air tanker problem for Canada as each Province will (cleverly) decide they can avoid spending money on tankers AND blame the Feds every summer when there aren’t enough to around”.
You forgot the part about “clapped out airframes with dodgy wingboxes” and “Transport Canada has a stated policy of never again allowing civil registry of an ex-military airframe” and then, my favourite- “if the feds wade into this, they will own the air tanker problem for Canada as each Province will (cleverly) decide they can avoid spending money on tankers AND blame the Feds every summer when there aren’t enough to around”.
Who cares if she is multilingual. That is one of the worst things we forced on Canada as it has resulted in a much smaller group of people forming government who generally don’t effectively represent the whole country.
It is a self inflicted limitation which disqualifies many competent people (potentially more capable than many of the bilingual people who do end up higher) from advancing into the higher levels of government.
Why should 18% of the population (1/5) have a monopoly? Excluding 82% from higher government because of ‘reasons’ isn’t a good thing.
As long as you speak one of the official languages that should be enough.
It probably matters to quite a few. Now, whether it is an actual requirement for the job is another argument but speaking more than one language should always be viewed as an asset.
That is one of the worst things we forced on Canada as it has resulted in a much smaller group of people forming government who generally don’t effectively represent the whole country.
It is a self inflicted limitation which disqualifies many competent people (potentially more capable than many of the bilingual people who do end up higher) from advancing into the higher levels of government.
Is it really a monopoly though? And it isn’t just “reasons” now is it. We are talking about fairly high appointments. That already excludes a vast majority of the population to begin with. Don’t think that GG choices are coming from 100% of the population. It’s a short list to begin with.
I generally agree but it depends on the position we are talking about. The current GG only speaks one official language, which kind of disproves what you are arguing.
“if the feds wade into this, they will own the air tanker problem for Canada as each Province will (cleverly) decide they can avoid spending money on tankers AND blame the Feds every summer when there aren’t enough to around”.
It probably matters to quite a few. Now, whether it is an actual requirement for the job is another argument but speaking more than one language should always be viewed as an asset.
None has to be bilingual to form government.
The current GG does not speak French and she was chosen.
Is it really a monopoly though? And it isn’t just “reasons” now is it. We are talking about fairly high appointments. That already excludes a vast majority of the population to begin with. Don’t think that GG choices are coming from 100% of the population. It’s a short list to begin with.
I generally agree but it depends on the position we are talking about. The current GG only speaks one official language, which kind of disproves what you are arguing.
They argue she was allowed to be chosen because she could speak two languages.
Are you going to argue that you can get to senior government positions (not just elected, government at large which includes the military and civil service) without speaking both English and French? There is a hard cap in there.
Who is they? You are under the assumption that language was a deciding factor in her being chosen. It wasn’t. Her ability to speak an indigenous language was probably seen as a bonus.
Are you going to argue that you can get to senior government positions (not just elected, government at large which includes the military and civil service) without speaking both English and French? There is a hard cap in there.
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Gord Johns and his petition to repurpose our 'left over' C-130s
Madam Speaker, it is an honour to table this petition on behalf of petitioners from my riding of Courtenay—Alberni, who are on the front line of wildfires this season. They highlight that the increase in intensity and cost of wildfires in Canada, not just in British Columbia but across the country, requires bold and timely action.
Without a national air tanker fleet, each province must weigh the cost of purchasing or contracting aviation resources, with no guarantee that resources will be available when and where they are needed most. Fighting wildfires and addressing the climate crisis demands a wartime level of effort and commitment. Other countries retrofit retired military aircraft for aerial firefighting and providing rapid response capability and national resilience.
The conversion of Canada's retired CC-130 Hercules fleet into state-of-the-art air tankers would protect communities and critical infrastructure, and it would help meet climate commitments by reducing catastrophic carbon releases from wildfires.
The petitioners cite that they are calling on the government to work in partnership with the private sector, in collaboration with potential first nations partners, to retrofit a portion of Canada's retired CC-130H Hercules fleet into large air tankers for wildfire suppression; deploy these aircraft as part of a strengthened national wildfire response capacity, to be shared with provinces and territories and, where appropriate, to be available for international humanitarian and emergency response missions; and, finally, prioritize this made-in-Canada solution, which leverages Canadian engineering and global expertise and delivers clear benefits in protecting lives, communities and the environment.
While I'm a huge proponent of C-130's outfitted with MAFF's units to allow for easy conversion to water bomber or transport airframe...
Using ex-military aircraft is a huge issue not just within Canada but around the world especially if under the control of civilian companies due to parts tracking and maintenance records. It's a huge issue why the USFS did not convert some of their ex-US Coast Guard airframes and instead pawned them off to CALFIRE.
If you're going to do this then order new machines - not high hour airframes that need major work before re-certification - and maybe look broader than the RCAF airframes.
If you're worried about C-130 purchase optics there is also the Bombardier Dash 8 Q-400 MR (Saskatchewan just bought 2 of this model) or you can look at the new CL-515 if you're willing to accept less cargo/passenger capacity.
While I'm a huge proponent of C-130's outfitted with MAFF's units to allow for easy conversion to water bomber or transport airframe...
Using ex-military aircraft is a huge issue not just within Canada but around the world especially if under the control of civilian companies due to parts tracking and maintenance records. It's a huge issue why the USFS did not convert some of their ex-US Coast Guard airframes and instead pawned them off to CALFIRE.
If you're going to do this then order new machines - not high hour airframes that need major work before re-certification - and maybe look broader than the RCAF airframes.
If you're worried about C-130 purchase optics there is also the Bombardier Dash 8 Q-400 MR (Saskatchewan just bought 2 of this model) or you can look at the new CL-515 if you're willing to accept less cargo/passenger capacity.
I think this is more about Gord Johns trying to pump up his NDP public image on the Coast, taking advantage of the emotions stirred by a local fire at Wesley Ridge, since he jumped ship from the Liberals ....
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