Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

[MilEME09]

And i believe after freeland is replaced this will mean a majority gov

PM Carney says Conservative MP Jeneroux crossing the floor to the Liberals

Poilievre says Jeneroux ‘betrayed’ his constituents

In a move Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre is calling a betrayal, Conservative MP Matt Jeneroux is joining the Liberal caucus.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[brihard]

And i believe after freeland is replaced this will mean a majority gov

PM Carney says Conservative MP Jeneroux crossing the floor to the Liberals

Poilievre says Jeneroux ‘betrayed’ his constituents

In a move Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre is calling a betrayal, Conservative MP Matt Jeneroux is joining the Liberal caucus.

www.ctvnews.ca

Not sure on the math given the several other recent announcements of LPC MPs moving to something else - Blair, Erskine-Smith, I think at least one other… I’ll wait for someone with more caffeine downrange than I currently have to do the math.

 

[MilEME09]

Not sure on the math given the several other recent announcements of LPC MPs moving to something else - Blair, Erskine-Smith, I think at least one other… I’ll wait for someone with more caffeine downrange than I currently have to do the math.

For your caffeine delivery

https://twitter.com/x/status/2024143638704292181

 

[Jarnhamar]

At least Jeneroux didn't talk shit about the Liberals right up until abandoning ship for them like d’Entremont and Ma did.

That's gotta burn for Mark Minenko.

 

[Czech_pivo]

So this is a guy that was elected 11yrs ago under Harper's leadership and in those 11yrs he has had 4 party leaders.

 

[HavokFour]

Well there it is. The floodgates open once more, post-leadership review.

How many more?

 

[HavokFour]

Algoma Steel on the DIS.

Algoma Steel issues response to Carney's defence industry strategy

Algoma’s history in the defence sector includes helping to make shells used in the First World War

www.sootoday.com

 

[PrairieFella]

Well there it is. The floodgates open once more, post-leadership review.

How many more?

Waiting to see if the leader will stay before crossing - thats about as clear as day that its an internal problem with Poilievre. PCs realigning to the Red Tory camp as opposed to Blue Liberals.

 

[Remius]

Time for the CPC to admit they have a problem.

 

[HavokFour]

Following up: Instead of his planned resignation, Matt Jeneroux has apparently decided to cross the floor to the Liberals.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/jeneroux-joins-liberals-9.7095322

PM Carney’s ‘welcome’ announcement:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2024140887014412764

Pierre's response.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2024160210038792673

EDIT: Wow, he's getting torn up in the replies.

 

[brihard]

Waiting to see if the leader will stay before crossing - thats about as clear as day that its an internal problem with Poilievre. PCs realigning to the Red Tory camp as opposed to Blue Liberals.

Not saying this smugly, but rather just to note that a few of us saw things potentially playing out this way or something that looks like it:

I could imagine a course of events where the CPC vote to keep Poilievre as leader, and that itself ends up cited by one or more disaffected MPs as a final trigger event pushing them to cross. I.e., the CPC refuses to change course so they’ve had enough.

PM Carney would probably be tickled pink to both get his majority AND have the CPC confirm Poilievre as continued leader. Politically, he would probably prefer that to the CPC sucking back, reassessing, and picking someone new who may be more effective. I could even literally see him asking other crossers to check fire until after the leadership review confirms Poilievre.

Time for the CPC to admit they have a problem.

Yeah but they just decided a couple weeks ago that they’re cool with it.

Two floor crossings should have been viewed as a concerning indicator of a leadership issue. Two floor crossings, a confirmation of current leadership, and then a third is an unmistakable and significant problem.

 

[HavokFour]

Yeah but they just decided a couple weeks ago that they’re cool with it.

To be fair, only those that travelled to Calgary and paid the $1000 $999 entry fee decided.

EDIT: Corrected price, it was also $450 each for youth delegates.

 

[brihard]

Matt Jeneroux’s statement released on social media a short time ago. To be clear, he will no longer be resigning his seat but instead will continue to sit indefinitely as a Liberal.

 

[RangerRay]

Sounds like someone got a hand slap

I guess there’s a reason PP didn’t appoint him to his gigantic shadow cabinet. Not a good indicator for a high-profile rookie candidate.

 

[Remius]

I guess there’s a reason PP didn’t appoint him to his gigantic shadow cabinet. Not a good indicator for a high-profile rookie candidate.

How long before Jivani starts calling for PPs head do you think?

 

[RangerRay]

How long before Jivani starts calling for PPs head do you think?

He’ll be leading the “Pierre is woke!” faction.

 

[Halifax Tar]

I am really not sure how its anything but hubris that's keeping PP in play anymore.

I still refuse to put my X beside the LPC, but I don't think if an election were called today with PP at the helm of the CPC I would give them my X. I would probably go PPC or spoiled ballot.

 

[MilEME09]

How long before Jivani starts calling for PPs head do you think?

How much did this hand slap of "its his personal opinion" caused this latest crossing?

 

[Seyek]

And i believe after freeland is replaced this will mean a majority gov

PM Carney says Conservative MP Jeneroux crossing the floor to the Liberals

Poilievre says Jeneroux ‘betrayed’ his constituents

In a move Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre is calling a betrayal, Conservative MP Matt Jeneroux is joining the Liberal caucus.

www.ctvnews.ca

I imagine this is Pierre's staffers right now.

Pierre seemed to have no issue over the years with liberals crossing to the conservatives, it's only an issue now they're leaving him. I don't understand how he has a strong following, I've voted primarily conservative (disclosure: voted for JT in '15, and Carney in the last one) and I don't like him. My lifelong conservative father (farmer and small business owner type) voted liberal in the last election after say, and I quote, "I fucking hate that guy" about Pierre. He's got his own weird personality cult that I do not understand but it's clearly not resonating with everyone anyone outside that circle.

He’ll be leading the “Pierre is woke!” faction.

He held hands with Mark Carney, of course he's woke. Jivani has a solid lock on all of Canada with his 'I'm best friends with JD Vance and Trump actually loves us, this whole mess is really our fault' shtick. I'd love to see the result of that election - I think Carney could even take the non-separatist part of Alberta at that point.

 

[HavokFour]

I imagine this is Pierre's staffers right now.

Pierre seemed to have no issue over the years with liberals crossing to the conservatives, it's only an issue now they're leaving him. I don't understand how he has a strong following, I've voted primarily conservative (disclosure: voted for JT in '15, and Carney in the last one) and I don't like him. My lifelong conservative father (farmer and small business owner type) voted liberal in the last election after say, and I quote, "I fucking hate that guy" about Pierre. He's got his own weird personality cult that I do not understand but it's clearly not resonating with everyone anyone outside that circle.



He held hands with Mark Carney, of course he's woke. Jivani has a solid lock on all of Canada with his 'I'm best friends with JD Vance and Trump actually loves us, this whole mess is really our fault' shtick. I'd love to see the result of that election - I think Carney could even take the non-separatist part of Alberta at that point.

He in fact voted against a bill in 2012 that would have seen floor crossers either sit as independents or go straight to a by-election if they intended to join another party.

C-306 (41-1) - LEGISinfo - Parliament of Canada

C-306 (41-1) - LEGISinfo - Parliament of Canada

www.parl.ca