Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

[Jarnhamar]

You quite literally pulled a what about Trudeau and then criticized him with that. LOL.

Never change Jarn. Never change.

I assume you're referring to the post where I said "10 and 20 years ago".

Was Trudeau the PM 20 years ago?

 

[Jarnhamar]

I’m actually glad we finally have leader who is trying to get things done

I largely agree.

and not playing stupid games.

I admit there haven't been any scandals to speak of in the first. Congratulations on stepping over that low bar are in order.

We just need an official opposition to do the same and we might actually have a serious parliament for once

We could do with a Parliamentary Budget Officer for oversight too.

 

[Seyek]

We could do with a Parliamentary Budget Officer for oversight too.

The office still exists at least, but I can't see any way to view this other than trying to keep PBO criticism to a minimum. Unless there's an actual rule in place barring Jason Jacques from continuing in an interim capacity he should have been kept on if they didn't have a replacement. This is far and away my biggest criticism of Carney.

 

[Haggis]

Kevin Brosseau, who was named Canada's fentanyl czar in February 2025, is keeping that role but is also being made the senior associate deputy minister of national defence and commissioner of the Canadian Coast Guard.

In a statement the Prime Minister's Office said the "leadership changes support the strong, effective delivery of priorities and results for Canadians, while positioning the federal government to advance Canada's interests and respond to the rapidly shifting dynamics of the global landscape."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/carney-deputy-minister-shuffle-9.7114459

I met him, briefly, when he came by our office last May. Didn't give me the "politician vibe" as badly as the PS Minister at the time, McGuinty, who was part of the same visit. But now, they're both together again at DND.

 

[dapaterson]

PBO is a GiC appointment. Even an interim appointment needs to go through that process.

And GiC appointments take time, and are often not a priority, and require the staff of the responsible department to push constantly.

 

[Seyek]

PBO is a GiC appointment. Even an interim appointment needs to go through that process.

And GiC appointments take time, and are often not a priority, and require the staff of the responsible department to push constantly.

While true, and with the caveat that the office has only existed since 2008, I believe this is the only time we haven't had a PBO. The other appointments were either permanent or one temporary, and picked up immediately after the other. Not having one appointed is nothing short of a deliberate decision to not have one, either because they don't care to have one, or they're probably trying real hard to find someone both acceptable to everyone yet the least likely to cause them headaches (purely guessing on my part of course). It's not like we weren't all fully aware that the term would end and a new PBO would have to be appointed.

 

[dapaterson]

While true, and with the caveat that the office has only existed since 2008, I believe this is the only time we haven't had a PBO. The other appointments were either permanent or one temporary, and picked up immediately after the other. Not having one appointed is nothing short of a deliberate decision to not have one, either because they don't care to have one, or they're probably trying real hard to find someone both acceptable to everyone yet the least likely to cause them headaches (purely guessing on my part of course). It's not like we weren't all fully aware that the term would end and a new PBO would have to be appointed.

Having been peripherally involved in some GiC appointments, I doubt that the GoC is cunning enough to deliberately not fill; it's more than likely bureaucratic friction.

 

[captloadie]

of course there is no evidence of malfeasance. I wouldn't expect there to be apparent evidence even if there was some skullduggery. Both Brookfield and Carney have been around far too long to get caught up in that kind of scandal. The fact that Brookfield has numerous lobbyists working Ottawa who have been in direct contact with Carney on several occasions is just smoke, the result of their being old business mates wanting to meet over a social drink, and events are pure coincidence if they work in Brookfield's favour. But if all of the liberal (do nothing wrong) group can spend their time castigating Pierre when the very leader they are fawning over is drawing heavily from the conservative platform and rising in the polls as a direct result then I am certainly entitled to create my own rumours regarding the lack of moral turpitude evidenced (to my mind which is all that counts) by his actions: in particular with reference China and news where Brookfield's name just happens (strictly coincidental I am sure) to come up. As far as hating the man, consider this: he is a liberal and was chosen by the Laurentian Elite to be the new leader. That group has never changed.

Why is there this constant attempt to link everything Carney is doing as Brookfield pulling the strings in the background? After a quick search, there are no former MPs sitting on Brookfield boards, with the exception of the PM. There are eight current MPs who have financial links to Brookfield, once again the PM, and 7 conservative MPs including the Leader of the Official Opposition.

If PP was the PM, would you be making these same accusations?

 

[Remius]

Why is there this constant attempt to link everything Carney is doing as Brookfield pulling the strings in the background? After a quick search, there are no former MPs sitting on Brookfield boards, with the exception of the PM. There are eight current MPs who have financial links to Brookfield, once again the PM, and 7 conservative MPs including the Leader of the Official Opposition.

If PP was the PM, would you be making these same accusations?

It’s an illness clearly.

 

[IKnowNothing]

It’s an illness clearly.

I don't know if it's entirely fair to the average voter. Cynically, political opponents are taking advantage to try and manufacture ethical doubt in what is a pretty unique and conceptually complicated situation.

Mark Carney's last job: organizing 10's and 100's of billions of capital, picking winners to generate returns while investing in his vision of the future.

Mark Carney's current job: trying to stimulate 100's of billions in capital, choosing the strategic direction of the country to generate economic growth while investing in his vision of the future.

No shit there's going to be overlap. No shit Brookfield is going to have some insight into what his vision is and be able to make some speculative bets. There's no way to avoid it accept barring the guy elected to do something from doing what he was elected to do, or barring a huge swathe of capital and firms from participating in our economy.