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I was thinking Croatia as well since the Croatian PM was just here in Canada.
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HavokFour
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Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Belgium, Norway, Portugal, Greece.
Denmark and Croatia are also possible guesses, that could be swapped with any of the above.
Noah’s reporting lots of chatter today about an announcement to come Monday, notably the day before NATO. At least one other defense reporter whom I’ll not link here is saying the same; Noah’s tweet quotes him so I’ll not share it either. But anyway, a bit of a chorus of “we’ve heard this too” is starting.
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Hey I ain’t laying a guess down, I’m just saying what the dude’s saying. He’s got a better batting average than most.Someone saw that no one here at Army.ca guessed the 6th.
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Fighter jet announcement at the NATO Summit would definitely be a choice, given it's basically the highest profile platform to announce a procurement. I would have guessed that if they were going for Gripen, they would have kept it more low key at home in a bid not to enflame the US given ongoing tensions on the issue. Unless we're angling for maximum spite over substance.
Also a bit awkward to announce a Gripen buy to NATO when almost no NATO nations operate the platform lol, especially when so many use the F-35 instead.....
Regardless of what the substance of the fighter announcement is, I do agree that it has moved up the schedule now that we've passed the July 1 USMCA deadline to renew. With annual reviews going forward whatever leverage there was in the decision must be reduced.
Whatever announcement might come at the Summit though I still don't think it will be the subs. As a comms guy I just see that as a wasted opportunity for maximum domestic PR, regardless of the winner(s) (hedging my bet on an all SK decision
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Fighters might make the most sense if it is a procurement winner announcement since which ever way we go is, in my opinion, still going to involve a substantial number of F-35s, and all f-35 or mixed fleet there will be much more controversy and parsing of the various moving parts than there will be with the subs.
That being said, at an international summit I'd be looking for something much more high level in terms of defence policy, budgets, future structure/plans etc. Maybe related to the bank or new commitments to the front lines in the Baltic?
Whatever announcement might come at the Summit though I still don't think it will be the subs. As a comms guy I just see that as a wasted opportunity for maximum domestic PR, regardless of the winner(s) (hedging my bet on an all SK decision
).Fighters might make the most sense if it is a procurement winner announcement since which ever way we go is, in my opinion, still going to involve a substantial number of F-35s, and all f-35 or mixed fleet there will be much more controversy and parsing of the various moving parts than there will be with the subs.
That being said, at an international summit I'd be looking for something much more high level in terms of defence policy, budgets, future structure/plans etc. Maybe related to the bank or new commitments to the front lines in the Baltic?
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I think the flipside of this is any announcements of this sort of magnitude at such a well attended and covered multi-national event will see huge media coverage both at home and abroad. If we want to show we are serious and especially regarding the size and substance of the submarine procurement, I can very much see the NATO Summit being a far more suitable platform for this kind of announcement. Do we want yet another Halifax/Esquimalt defence announcement like we've seen quite a few times in recent years, or do we want a bold statement on the world stage?Whatever announcement might come at the Summit though I still don't think it will be the subs. As a comms guy I just see that as a wasted opportunity for maximum domestic PR, regardless of the winner(s) (hedging my bet on an all SK decision
I tend to believe the rumors of a Monday announcement likely at home though, there's too many well informed folks saying it at this point for it to realistically be false.
It isn't really a procurement winner announcement, as what they are talking about is a sole source contract to Saab with no actual contest at this point. I'd bet we'll see more nations jumping onboard DSRB at the NATO Summit, which is very relevant for Canada.
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I’ve heard “formalizing GlobalEye” and “another very large SAFE contract.”
Not saying that as a comms guy I've never been overruled...
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Is Trump going to be at the summit? If yes, will that factor into any of our decisions as to what to announce or not before, during or at the end of the summit?
Yes he is, and for sure that factors in. And to me it mitigates against anything in the way of an announcement from us about subs and for sure fighters, unless in the latter case we're confirming the original F-35 plan, which would be welcome to both the US and I would think most of NATO (other than the Swedes).
Beyond that, I still think anything from us is more likely to be high level big picture stuff. Yes the it's the world stage with the world media but Trump and whatever pronouncements good or bad the Americans have about the future of NATO will be sucking up all the oxygen. Add to that whatever storylines emerge about Ukraine, Turkey's apparent rapprochement with NATO/the West and whatever the hell is going on in the UK and I would fear that the impact of any Canadian announcements will get lost, at least as far as international media go.
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With Carney meeting with Meloni at the G7 and announcing the contract for 22 Italian trainers, McGunity going to Japan and meeting with their M of D and now Carney going to Saudi to meet with them and try for closer ties - all of that lends weight to GCAP and our greater involvement in it I'd argue.
Carney to meet Saudi crown prince as Canada pursues closer ties
Prime Minister Mark Carney will meet next week with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, the kingdom’s de facto ruler, but federal officials would not say whether the prime minister plans to raise human rights concerns during the visit.
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Carney to meet Saudi crown prince as Canada pursues closer ties
Us and the Saudi's have talked about as 2 potential participants in a wider GCAP group.
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No! Please! Not with the Saudis. You think you have a human right agenda problem with China? Take a look at human rights in Saudi Arabia.
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Related to the above.
Commission proposes five joint defence projects to strengthen Europe's industrial capabilities
Today, on 3rd July 2026, the European Commission proposed five new large-scale projects, known as the European Defence Projects of Common Interest (EDPCIs), to help EU countries strengthen their defence capabilities by developing key military systems together.
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Commission proposes five joint defence projects to strengthen Europe's industrial capabilities
“These new, ambitious, and long-term defence projects will act as key initiatives to strengthen EU defence readiness and bolster our strategic autonomy. The EDPCIs we are proposing today will make a direct contribution to the development of a European Air, Maritime and Space Shield, enhanced Drone and Counter-Drone Capabilities, and securing the Eastern Flank Watch. With a combined funding ambition of around €190 billion by 2036, they will play a key role in strengthening the Member States’ capabilities and keep Europe and Europeans safe.”
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GCAP would be an interesting announcement. I think there will also be SAAB/Euro aerospace defence collaboration in the package somehow.With Carney meeting with Meloni at the G7 and announcing the contract for 22 Italian trainers, McGunity going to Japan and meeting with their M of D and now Carney going to Saudi to meet with them and try for closer ties - all of that lends weight to GCAP and our greater involvement in it I'd argue.
Carney to meet Saudi crown prince as Canada pursues closer ties
Prime Minister Mark Carney will meet next week with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, the kingdom’s de facto ruler, but federal officials would not say whether the prime minister plans to raise human rights concerns during the visit.
Carney to meet Saudi crown prince as Canada pursues closer ties
Us and the Saudi's have talked about as 2 potential participants in a wider GCAP group.
