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British Columbia NDP Majority Government 2024-(no later than) 2029

daftandbarmy said:
And it’s only eight months removed from an eight-week strike by the BC General Employees’ Union, which was so successful it broke the NDP government’s bargaining mandate to produce a richer contract worth billions more.

The nurses’ strike is the first since 1989. And the BCGEU strike was the longest in provincial history—eight weeks.
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I assume the main aim of the BCGEU strike was to break the bargaining mandate, and the same for the nurses. I had a good laugh watching their president deliver the "Oh we were not part of any bargaining that produced that mandate; that's their problem" line. The NDP only needs to pretend to cave to one situation at a time to be "forced" to pay off me-too clauses.
 
Humphrey Bogart said:
I think it's very funny that the NDP have proven time and again in various provincial legislatures in this Country that they turn anything they touch in to a dumpster fire, yet they manage to somehow convince voters from time to time that "this time will be different!".
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Funnily enough the Canadian archetype for the NDP, Tommy Douglas, never ran a deficit, paid expenses out of revenues and left no debt.

But Tommy was an old fashioned Christian Socialist that believed in voluntary co-operation (hence Co-Operative Commonwealth Federation), not coercion. A Scot turned Canadian, a Protestant who chose the Baptist church, and like his fellow Saskatchewanian, John Diefenbaker, a Freemason.

All of the supporting structures seem to have been lost to modern Canadian socialists.
 
New party coming to BC courtesy of some former Team Blue members.
www.delta-optimist.com

MLA Ian Paton quits Conservative caucus

Delta South MLA will sit as an independent
www.delta-optimist.com www.delta-optimist.com
vancouver.citynews.ca

MLA Ian Paton defects from B.C. Conservatives, plans to form new party with Peter Milobar

Two British Columbia MLAs who have recently defected from the provincial Conservatives say they are forming a new party.
vancouver.citynews.ca vancouver.citynews.ca
vicnews.com

Ian Paton leaves B.C. Conservatives, plans to form new party with Peter Milobar - Victoria News

Kamloops Centre MLA Peter Milobar is to be interim leader of new party
vicnews.com vicnews.com
 
The Bread Guy said:
New party coming to BC courtesy of some former Team Blue members.
www.delta-optimist.com

MLA Ian Paton quits Conservative caucus

Delta South MLA will sit as an independent
www.delta-optimist.com www.delta-optimist.com
vancouver.citynews.ca

MLA Ian Paton defects from B.C. Conservatives, plans to form new party with Peter Milobar

Two British Columbia MLAs who have recently defected from the provincial Conservatives say they are forming a new party.
vancouver.citynews.ca vancouver.citynews.ca
vicnews.com

Ian Paton leaves B.C. Conservatives, plans to form new party with Peter Milobar - Victoria News

Kamloops Centre MLA Peter Milobar is to be interim leader of new party
vicnews.com vicnews.com
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Two-party politics in BC lasts only as long as the non-NDP party isn't controlled by a sub-faction that floats to extremes of conservativism. I didn't follow the last leadership selection well enough to understand why Findlay was chosen; I have supposed it is the same thing that is playing out in the US primaries: a small group with high cohesion turns out a high percentage of its devotees to vote for its candidates.

In Canadian politics I notice a tendency among moderate conservatives to demand silence and obedience from the immoderates, and then to tune out and cede the ground when they don't get their way. It's difficult to keep a party moderate if you won't tolerate the fringes long enough to contest the candidacies and won't do any work harder than complaining.
 
The Bread Guy said:
New party coming to BC courtesy of some former Team Blue members.
www.delta-optimist.com

MLA Ian Paton quits Conservative caucus

Delta South MLA will sit as an independent
www.delta-optimist.com www.delta-optimist.com
vancouver.citynews.ca

MLA Ian Paton defects from B.C. Conservatives, plans to form new party with Peter Milobar

Two British Columbia MLAs who have recently defected from the provincial Conservatives say they are forming a new party.
vancouver.citynews.ca vancouver.citynews.ca
vicnews.com

Ian Paton leaves B.C. Conservatives, plans to form new party with Peter Milobar - Victoria News

Kamloops Centre MLA Peter Milobar is to be interim leader of new party
vicnews.com vicnews.com
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And the BC Conservatives continue their implosion.

[CBC]Rosalyn Bird is latest MLA to leave Kerry-Lynne Findlay's B.C. Conservatives​

 
brihard said:
A fifth B.C. Conservative has left the party.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2092721119312974234

I’m ignorant as to what triggered this; anyone got a coles notes on what kinda seems like a party collapsing?
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The BC conservatives used to be the the BC liberals and BC conservatives, the BC liberals being the centrist middle of the road types. They were merged into the BC conservatives in a unite the right type movement as seen in Alberta, but not via party members voting for that, but largely by the leader who unilaterally decided to do so. Since then the leadership has gone from one maple maga quack, to a even bigger maple maga quack.

The newest maple maga quack won the leadership 51-49, and has taken that mandate to take full control of the party, swing its policies way to the right (She would make PP look slightly right of center by comparison) and refuses to listen to the BC liberals centrist types.

As such, and by virtue of not being in power like the UCP in Alberta, the Centrists have had enough and are now jumping ship.
 
Altair said:
The BC conservatives used to be the the BC liberals and BC conservatives, the BC liberals being the centrist middle of the road types. They were merged into the BC conservatives in a unite the right type movement as seen in Alberta, but not via party members voting for that, but largely by the leader who unilaterally decided to do so. Since then the leadership has gone from one maple maga quack, to a even bigger maple maga quack.

The newest maple maga quack won the leadership 51-49, and has taken that mandate to take full control of the party, swing its policies way to the right (She would make PP look slightly right of center by comparison) and refuses to listen to the BC liberals centrist types.

As such, and by virtue of not being in power like the UCP in Alberta, the Centrists have had enough and are now jumping ship.
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Good effort but not quite. 😉

Kevin Falcon became leader of the BC Liberals and immediately changed the name to B.C. United. They did a lousy job marketing it and it never caught on.

Meanwhile, the up until now non-existent BC Conservatives gained a sitting MLA when John Rustad was kicked out of B.C. United caucus for inflammatory statements. With the momentum of the federal CPC and Poilievre, the BCCP overtook the B.C. United. BC United decided not to run candidates so the free-enterprise vote wouldn’t split (and their marketing sucked).

The BCCP cobbled together a a weird Frankenparty that had a bizarre mix of far-right loons to moderate right Tories. Many free-enterprise Liberals sat out the election the last election, allowing the NDP to win despite there being only one feasible free-enterprise party. This is the first time this has happened since the 1940’s.

Shortly after the election, the caucus started imploding, as MLAs were booted for bozo eruptions, leading to Rustad being ousted. A leadership race was held and far-right Kerry-Lynn Findlay barely defeated moderate conservative Caroline Elliot. Immediately, KLF announced that all “Liberals” were going to be purged from the party.

What we’re seeing is the continued implosion of the party of people who are uncomfortable with KLF’s extremism. Conservatives have never been able to win elections in British Columbia without Liberals and vice versa. When KLF announced the Liberal purge, I knew this was going to be the end result.
 
BC's on/off fusion of "liberals" and "conservatives" goes back at least as far as when the social credit movement was hijacked in the '50s. Some history here. (An insurgent faction taking over an existing party is not a recent phenomenon.)

Long-established parties are more prone to pulling apart under tension these days because while everyone is generally moving along a "progressive" vector, they are moving at different speeds. The "big tents" collapse. I suppose because conservatives by definition move much more slowly than progressives, an ideological gap between identifiable (or self-identified) sub-factions doesn't have to be as large to create fracture. Events in the US Democratic party suggest more left-leaning parties eventually suffer the same problem.

I further suppose that when most of the voting population which supports a party is highly concentrated, it takes longer for strains to pull them apart. Most NDP support in BC originates in the GVRD and on Vancouver Island. While it's easy to identify different political and social sub-cultures (eg. Gulf Islanders, Vancouver Islanders, etc), for the most part they are all people who still share mostly the same priors. So they remain mostly together. For the BC NDP, the overriding internal tension is between people who want to protect everything natural and people who want to prosper.
 
How many is this now?

Eby should probably start buying lottery tickets in bulk.

globalnews.ca

Another MLA leaves BC Conservative Party as Bruce Banman announces exit | Globalnews.ca

'The goal in politics is to make the tent bigger. To listen to the majority. It’s not about left or right. It’s about doing what’s right,' Bruce Banman said in a statement.
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Banman was also the first MLA to cross to the BC Conservatives, coincidentally. It's not just the moderates jumping ship.

44 seats won in 2024, now down to 31.
 
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